<div dir="ltr">I did not know that Rachel did not want to be privately messaged before reading about it on this thread. I'm really glad I didn't accidentally do so.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:19 PM, hep <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org" target="_blank">dis@gruntle.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I also agree that Johnny knew about this request. I will note that this is something that many female tech persons have to deal with, having their wishes for contact explicitly ignored and then having the calling out of that behavior questioned. "misunderstanding" seems to go a long way towards excusing boundary crossing behavior. <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>-hep </div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Naomi Gmail <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>...... I think Rachel is on target here. Johny must have previously seen Rachel's post-to-list behavior and deliberately wrote that to bother her. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If I imagine Johny writing that to anyone else it seems pretty nonsensical. <span><font color="#888888"><br><br>--Naomi</font></span></div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br>On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Al Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com" target="_blank">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Because he added the request for you to post to the list does not mean he knew that you did not want to be privately messaged, if I follow this right.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But he does know now, so he won't. I agree with Ryan, this does seem like a misunderstanding.</p>
<div style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Lolol.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Johny's claim of innocence here would make sense if he hadn't appended a request to post his messages to the list to both private emails he sent me.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't expect an apology from him, but if he is calling the quote I posted a lie that's interesting, and if he expects anyone to believe that he didn't know about this desire of mine then I don't really know what that quote was supposed to mean. Here's the request he put in his other email to me:<br>
"I hope you don't like this message so that you share it on-list."</p>
<p dir="ltr">Do you deny writing that, johny? Be sure to tell my killfile all about it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'll say that in fact the times we've encountered each other at noisebridge I've been, if anything, rude to him, since I think he's <elided negative words>.</p>
<p dir="ltr">R.</p>
<div style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">In summary; a misunderstanding, all is good.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 27, 2014 8:19 PM, "Johny Radio" <<a href="mailto:johnyradio@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnyradio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Rachel asked *everyone* to please message her onlist in at least one recent thread that I read</div></blockquote></div>
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<div>Unfortunately, i don't have time to read every post to the list. So no, i did not see that. Nor do i feel it's my responsibility to read every post by rachelyra, to make sure i don't miss any general instructions. </div>
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<div>And since Rachel and i have chilled in-person at NB with friendly vibes, i had no reason to assume that. </div>
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<div>To Spinach claim, Rachel never asked me, Johny Radio, not to message her off-list, as Spinach stated. </div>
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<div>If Rachel, or anybody, does not want to be messaged off-list, i suggest you put that in your signature in every post you send. </div>
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