<div dir="ltr"><div>First and <b>very important</b>: What is "Noisebridge"? What is "Sudo Room"? What is a community? Is it the same as the mandated corporate structure that allows one to receive certain designated benefits and constraints from the state as a corporate entity or for that matter a non-profit corporation or further a 501(c)3 or other specific form of education-focused or similar federal tax-exempt entity? Or does this corporate entity exist in order to protect a community from liability? What is a "mission" versus a dynamic, reinventing, practical reality grounded in interpersonal interactions, physical infrastructure, social webs, cultural protocol, documentation, bureaucracy (both good and bad), institutional knowledge, etc? Is every action grounded in some abstract "mission" or does the "mission" rather try to capture and explain to particular audiences what a community is generally about that could never really fully be captured? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Also <b>critical</b>: Why was the Noisebridge mission written? Why were the By-Laws made, and the board of directors formed? I can tell you that the board exists because it was a hack--a necessary hack in order to continue existing in the current dominant system. To incorporate. To file paper work. To become a federal 501(c)3. There are benefits, and there are costs, risks, liabilities, protections, opportunities. Trade-offs. Sudo Room is using this hack too given the constraints and the current state of affairs. There are other options, but we've chosen this path and are accepting the risks, with resolve to counter negative effects.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Your responses are provocative along several very different assumptions about my arguments, fun! Perhaps you should read sudo room's Articles of Association first and get back to me after that: <a href="https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association">https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association</a> Especially read our values section, including "do-ocracy over bureaucracy" pasted below as well.<br>
<br>Any participant who contributed to breaking an oscilloscope should be held accountable and there should be an easy system to replace infrastructure speedly--not everything needs to be a centralized decision. Purchase order wiki page? Reimbursements for low-cost items? Internal insurance process for high-cost items? However, in my opinion, for those things that could not easily be sorted on their own, if all else fails, an ultimately democratic consensus process should be used.</div>
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<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Value open, public discourses over closed, proprietary processes.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Value access and transparency over exclusivity.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Value solving real problems over hypotheticals, while respecting visions of the future.</li>
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Value do-ocracy over bureaucracy.</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Value safe space over ideology.</li></ol></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Johny Radio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnyradio@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnyradio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I think you're saying that your priority is to make sure everyone has a "voice". For me, effective means creating a project that fulfills it's Mission. If NB's Mission is to provide technical infrastructure, and it fails at that, then the process is not "effective"-- even if everyone has a "voice."</div>
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</div><div>i contend that if an oscilloscope is broken, i'm very comfortable delegating the authority to get it fixed or replaced to someone else. I don't need a "voice" in that. What i need is an oscilloscope. </div>
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