<div dir="ltr">You changed the subject away from "I believe we can/can't ignore the bylaws" to how you feel about changing the bylaws.<div><br></div><div>No, seriously. This isn't some grand evil scheme or trick. I just want to know that the next time the board votes 4 to 1 against you that you won't pull a "well, this board vote doesn't count because I block" even though the bylaws say board decisions are made by majority vote.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Prediction: You're next email won't answer this question either.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Naomi Most <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There is no "yes or no" question implied here:<br>
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> So, I'm of the mindset that the Noisebridge bylaws are not suggestions, but rules that cannot be ignored or are somehow optional. Anyone else like to make a public record if they feel the same way or the opposite?<br>
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</div>You were asking if people "feel the same way or the opposite". I replied:<br>
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> "I am not for changing the bylaws, at all. Don't see any need to."<br>
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</div>How does this leave wiggle room?<br>
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Whatever.<br>
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On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Al Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Nah, it's just that it's a really simple question but your lengthy answer<br>
> didn't give a straight yes or no. And the other times I've asked you've also<br>
> dodged it. Even your current answer of "Did I ever imply otherwise?" leaves<br>
> wiggle room for you to later say, "I never said we had to follow the<br>
> bylaws."<br>
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> Mostly I worry that you make up your own rules for whatever is convenient.<br>
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> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Did I ever imply otherwise?<br>
>><br>
>> You're clearly setting up for something I fear won't pan out for you<br>
>> the way you're hoping...<br>
>><br>
>> --Naomi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Al Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > So Naomi, does that mean you agree that the Noisebridge bylaws can't be<br>
>> > ignored?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Apr 6, 2014 6:15 PM, "Naomi Gmail" <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Good constructive question.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> If we can't agree on the bylaws as a firm basis, then we have no<br>
>> >> foundation at all, and nothing we do in writing or at meetings will<br>
>> >> help to<br>
>> >> bring this disparate community together.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am not for changing the bylaws, at all. Don't see any need to.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Of possible relevance:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> In proposing a rewrite -- or better stated, a "renewal"-- of a Mission<br>
>> >> Statement, it wasn't my intention to imply a rewrite to the bylaws.<br>
>> >> Only a<br>
>> >> rewriting (or not!) of what appears on the wiki as the explanation of<br>
>> >> what<br>
>> >> Noisebridge "does" and why, and more importantly, a process of coming<br>
>> >> to the<br>
>> >> agreement that helps the community understand itself better.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --Naomi<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > On Apr 6, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Al Sweigart <<a href="mailto:asweigart@gmail.com">asweigart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > So, I'm of the mindset that the Noisebridge bylaws are not<br>
>> >> > suggestions,<br>
>> >> > but rules that cannot be ignored or are somehow optional. Anyone else<br>
>> >> > like<br>
>> >> > to make a public record if they feel the same way or the opposite?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > -Al<br>
>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
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>> >> > <a href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
>> >> > <a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a><br>
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>> --<br>
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