Yes! All great stuff. To be institutionalized by the Cleaning Working Group-- not a one-time soon-to-be-forgotten suggestions on a Mailing list. <br><br>People need to realize many of your suggestions-- signage, shutting down the kitchen, etc, have been tried by others before you! It didn't work! You really think you're the first people to talk about this problem? Been an issue for YEARS. <br><br>Unstructured comments on a mailing list are not an effective problem-solving process. Needs a long-term Working Group. <br><br>Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><div dir="ltr">Actionable Options:<div><ul><li>New "Controlled Decay" or "Cleaning" email list for active clean-conscious Noisebridgers</li><li>Convergence of primary actors in seeing and investing in changes (a "meeting" or better a "cleaning party!")<br>
</li><ul><li>What about a cleaning party announced at beginning&end 5MOF on Thurs for after the event, with a concrete end time, a chance to meet folks who may want to transform kitchen usage at the space? Decide on a second time to meet (every Thurs? every 5MOF?)</li>
</ul><li>Write and improve wiki pages on things like:</li><ul><li>Strategies for cleaning and maintaining a kitchen</li><li>Lessons learned from other spaces, inspirations</li><li>Articulating a shared vision of the future of food / cleaning /etc.</li>
</ul><li>Build consensus by bringing it to weekly meeting every week until improvement or some other resolution can be found.</li></ul></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Johny Radio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnyradio@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnyradio@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Cynthia and several others who are important in this<br>
discussion are not on the mailing list.<br>
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</div>J: Cynthia is a non-hacker, non-member, who to my knowledge has never distinguished herself for cleaning or helping noisebridge, but has distinguished herself by moving hacking tables out of the library into the kitchen last time the kitchen was "shut down".<br>
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Why should Cynthia have any damn voice in this discussion?<br>
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Shall the non-hacking squatters have a voice in the sleeping discussion?<br>
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