<div dir="ltr">By the way, this looks like it's possibly the work of davidfine.<div><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/044036.html">https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/044036.html</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Jeffrey</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Don't feel too bad, Ronald. No one should be depending on the stove, and if it's unsafe to use, it shouldn't be used. I think you did the right thing considering the risks. I just hope no one goes through the trouble to undo your work and bring it back online without making the proper repairs or replacements first.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>Jeffrey</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just got off the phone regarding the stove with a community member who uses the stove. I had originally decided to not do anything other than say maybe we should just use half the stove. Then I took a closer look and said NOPE that isn't a good idea to leave this running. I then disabled it. It was a much longer than necessary conversation. This person also knew of the issues at least on saturday and did nothing to resolve it (fix it, disable it, call someone). I think we need to spend some more time with the community and teaching the community standards of Doocracy and be excellent. I was a little un excellent in handling this situation. I need to work on that. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Also please be aware, if you do not agree with my assessment, you can doocratically hook up the stove again. I would really hate to see someone get injured or anything else bad to happen in the space. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">The removal portion of it was not really related to this email. It was more informing that I doocratically disabled it, due to the hazard of using it. What we choose to do can be decided at Tuesday's meeting. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:44 PM, John Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Ronald,</div><div><br></div>Not doubting that. <div><br></div><div>I was simply stating what I understood from the inspector, as I spoke to him directly during his visit. I'm trying to minimize misspent effort on repairing something that will almost certainly have to be removed.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>-John<br><div><br></div></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sorry that was snarky. What I mean to say is that when a conductive liquid hits wires (in this case a heating element with lots of power running through it), it can cause a short. Ditto with the control circuit. Even if somewhere was to not get hurt by electrocution or a fire being started, it could damage the stove further. Is that excellent to the users of the stove? </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Did you look at the picture?</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:35 PM, John Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Ronald,</div><div><br></div>I thought the inspector said the cook-top had to go.<div><br></div><div>
-John</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">It would appear that the tempered glass on top of the stove has been broken. The way in which it is broken means liquids can easily get to the heating element and the circuit board that controls the stove. We will either need to replace the top glass with a new one, get a different stove or take it out altogether. In the short term, I have disabled the circuit breaker, put up a few signs with my phone number and finally Sid made it so that the stove can't just be turned on by flipping the circuit breaker. This is a pretty major safety hazard right now and we should deal with this along with the building inspector stuff post haste. <span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
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