<div dir="ltr">that was my initial suggestion when i floated the idea of putting in a keypad. another key part of that idea was putting the keypad at the TOP OF THE STAIRS (not outside the gate).<div><br></div><div>let me repeat that: the keypad needs to go AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS.</div>
<div><br></div><div>of course everyone who ran with the idea put the stupid thing outside the gate, and it was a dumb idea and i had to disinvolve myself because they were fucking it up. </div><div><br></div><div>the reason it needs to go at the top of the stairs is so it will not affect access to the rest of the building (let's not forget we are not the only tenants who use that downstairs gate) and it will allow people to look through the porthole and see who is even there in the first place. it would probably be relatively trivial to just move the current keypad to the top of the stairs and set up a timed lock mechanism.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Naomi Most <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A very cool suggestion was made at the SecWG meeting two Thursdays ago<br>
(next meeting this Thursday at 7pm!)<br>
<br>
The idea was to install a physical two-factor auth system, where the<br>
key still works, but between certain certain hours (or some other<br>
heuristic) there's a keypad that must be entered to allow the key to<br>
actually open the door.<br>
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--Naomi<br>
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On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM, daravinne <<a href="mailto:daravinne@gmail.com">daravinne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> other people use the building besides us.<br>
><br>
> changing the lock would also halt the worldwide outreach that Mitch and<br>
> others do by giving hackers and hackerspaces in other countries copies of<br>
> the noisebridge key by rendering that keypattern obsolete.<br>
><br>
> the solution is a combination of access control, improved ownership of<br>
> redshirts team, and outreach within the space that guides people who are<br>
> using it as a crashpad / alternate shelter to other resources (which<br>
> simultaneously gets them out of the space and messages that the space is<br>
> definitely NOT a crashpad).<br>
><br>
> Since we are currently way past Dunbar's number AND mired in the Tragedy of<br>
> the Commons, it will take some fairly special, admirable and dedicated<br>
> people to take ownership of these problems and see them through to<br>
> resolution (you know, sticking with it past all the initial-failure and<br>
> solving/tweaking mode stuff).<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Hannah Grimm <<a href="mailto:dharlette@gmail.com">dharlette@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I think that the solution here is access control to the space.<br>
>><br>
>> That starts with changing the lock, but I suspect that lots of folks would<br>
>> be opposed to that.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Johny reported:<br>
>>><br>
>>> "I met a woman who informed me that she could not get a bed at a<br>
>>> shelter, so she came to Noisebridge."<br>
>>><br>
>>> #0: is this a problem? [yes, but is it a problem Noisebridge can fix?]<br>
>>><br>
>>> #1: What should we do to prevent this?<br>
>>><br>
>>> #2: If it can't be prevented, how should we address it when it arises?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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