<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Do we even need a "keypad" as such? <div><br></div><div>I wonder... as a wild hare rabbit stew level idea- a camera aimed at numbers projected on floor. Block beam to # with foot in sequence= camera shows the sequence to some AI realm program. sort of how traffic lights use a camera for lane occupied detection. </div>
<div><br></div><div> I'd even consider- crude Machine CV scripts? Idea is: to begin timer loops when a foot blocks beam ... </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Place foot on light dot of #1= camera "sees" that as a button push. Soft tone to ack the press. Repeat per digits till done. Wrong codes might start a delay penalty timer... and/or "who's at the door" chime in the space??? </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> If you know the code and how to step it in - After a few seconds of footsie the relay clicks and you're in. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There's a million details to get a usable build of my hack. But the basic concept is my gift to NB... I rather hope that some folks can show their best efforts at this. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'd dare presume to assign person's X to some sub-task but that would be cheating.. My </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Oren Beck<br><br>816.632.3695</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Naomi Most <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm merely suggesting that someone who has the expertise and enjoys<br>
the activity should probably be given the opportunity to step up and<br>
do a fun thing.<br>
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--Naomi<br>
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On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:03 PM, daravinne <<a href="mailto:daravinne@gmail.com">daravinne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> it doesn't matter if you *like* installing keypads. you install a keypad<br>
> because you feel strongly that it needs to be done. half the reason we're at<br>
> the point we're at is because people only want to do what they like and not<br>
> what needs to be done regardless of if they like it, and not enough people<br>
> support the idea that we all have to do shit we don't necessarily find to be<br>
> all rainbows and unicorns to make the space work the best for everyone<br>
> involved.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Yep, makes sense to me.<br>
>><br>
>> Let's do that. Who's around who likes installing keypads?<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, daravinne <<a href="mailto:daravinne@gmail.com">daravinne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > that was my initial suggestion when i floated the idea of putting in a<br>
>> > keypad. another key part of that idea was putting the keypad at the TOP<br>
>> > OF<br>
>> > THE STAIRS (not outside the gate).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > let me repeat that: the keypad needs to go AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > of course everyone who ran with the idea put the stupid thing outside<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > gate, and it was a dumb idea and i had to disinvolve myself because they<br>
>> > were fucking it up.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > the reason it needs to go at the top of the stairs is so it will not<br>
>> > affect<br>
>> > access to the rest of the building (let's not forget we are not the only<br>
>> > tenants who use that downstairs gate) and it will allow people to look<br>
>> > through the porthole and see who is even there in the first place. it<br>
>> > would<br>
>> > probably be relatively trivial to just move the current keypad to the<br>
>> > top of<br>
>> > the stairs and set up a timed lock mechanism.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> A very cool suggestion was made at the SecWG meeting two Thursdays ago<br>
>> >> (next meeting this Thursday at 7pm!)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The idea was to install a physical two-factor auth system, where the<br>
>> >> key still works, but between certain certain hours (or some other<br>
>> >> heuristic) there's a keypad that must be entered to allow the key to<br>
>> >> actually open the door.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --Naomi<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:43 AM, daravinne <<a href="mailto:daravinne@gmail.com">daravinne@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > other people use the building besides us.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > changing the lock would also halt the worldwide outreach that Mitch<br>
>> >> > and<br>
>> >> > others do by giving hackers and hackerspaces in other countries<br>
>> >> > copies<br>
>> >> > of<br>
>> >> > the noisebridge key by rendering that keypattern obsolete.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > the solution is a combination of access control, improved ownership<br>
>> >> > of<br>
>> >> > redshirts team, and outreach within the space that guides people who<br>
>> >> > are<br>
>> >> > using it as a crashpad / alternate shelter to other resources (which<br>
>> >> > simultaneously gets them out of the space and messages that the space<br>
>> >> > is<br>
>> >> > definitely NOT a crashpad).<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Since we are currently way past Dunbar's number AND mired in the<br>
>> >> > Tragedy<br>
>> >> > of<br>
>> >> > the Commons, it will take some fairly special, admirable and<br>
>> >> > dedicated<br>
>> >> > people to take ownership of these problems and see them through to<br>
>> >> > resolution (you know, sticking with it past all the initial-failure<br>
>> >> > and<br>
>> >> > solving/tweaking mode stuff).<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Hannah Grimm <<a href="mailto:dharlette@gmail.com">dharlette@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> I think that the solution here is access control to the space.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> That starts with changing the lock, but I suspect that lots of folks<br>
>> >> >> would<br>
>> >> >> be opposed to that.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Naomi Most <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> Johny reported:<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> "I met a woman who informed me that she could not get a bed at a<br>
>> >> >>> shelter, so she came to Noisebridge."<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> #0: is this a problem? [yes, but is it a problem Noisebridge can<br>
>> >> >>> fix?]<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> #1: What should we do to prevent this?<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> #2: If it can't be prevented, how should we address it when it<br>
>> >> >>> arises?<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> --<br>
>> >> >>> Naomi Theora Most<br>
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