<div dir="ltr">Sorry - they signed a lease in late 2008, but Noisebridge was founded in 2007. (It was easier to find that out on Wikipedia than it was on <a href="http://noisebridge.net">noisebridge.net</a>.)</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Almost 6 years old.<div><br></div><div>And I'll echo what spinach is saying. The economy has picked up, but most people not in some sort of tech-related capacity are still not doing too well. Are you just assuming that most members have a job in tech? (Are you assuming that most members have a job?)</div>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Jessica Ross <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jessica.r.ross@gmail.com" target="_blank">jessica.r.ross@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just how old is this hackerspace? Just wondering.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Romy Snowyla <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Wow this is so dramatic. I feel there is a natural change from the initial optimism at the start of a hackerspace. Infighting and issues and lack of enthusiasm in membership naturally follows </div>
<div><br></div><div>Re: the economy - it's been booming around noisebridge in SF. Most members are working in tech so since the crash we have been doing pretty well financially ., maybe more money less passion and more problems ?</div>
<div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div><div><br>On May 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <<a href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><p dir="ltr">I personally believe the space began to seriously unravel upon the occasion of the economic unraveling of the entire world, aka the biggest economic crash in living memory, which epically gutted marginal and poor communities, followed by a huge lopsided and region-specific economic boom - which created an epicenter for monumental wealth disparity and growing social discord.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I mean, it's fun to point fingers at each other's ideas or efforts as Having Ruined Noisebridge, but I think acknowledging that the larger social picture has an effect on us might alleviate the circle of It-Was-Better-When and open up some space for good-spirited idea-sharing, and learning from each other's differing perspectives.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Call me crazy.</p>
<p dir="ltr">R.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 13, 2014 12:46 PM, "Naomi Most" <<a href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" target="_blank">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Your posts aren't being moderated...<br>
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> I'm disappointed that people didn't want to work to find creative solutions to try and preserve them.<br>
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Some of us are...<br>
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> I truly believe that the space began to seriously unravel when the community erected associate membership rules, access policies and bureaucratic harassment doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.<br>
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Me too.<br>
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Darius Garza <<a href="mailto:313kid@gmail.com" target="_blank">313kid@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The jabber is no longer entertaining and it seems like my posts are being<br>
> moderated for some reason so I've finally decided to unsubscribe from this<br>
> list. The signal to noise ratio on here is dismal and it's not worth wading<br>
> through all the petty personal drama to find the occasional gem.<br>
><br>
> I wanted to be more involved with noisebridge and help the space thrive but<br>
> it was almost impossible to find support or make genuine connections with<br>
> people at the space. Perhaps I could have tried harder, but the snarky<br>
> attitudes and constant bickering put a damper on my motivation.<br>
><br>
> Hackerspaces are so 2010 anyway. I don't need a static point of reference to<br>
> work with a group of bright, creative individuals or learn new things. There<br>
> are many places for people to gather that provide more appropriate resources<br>
> for folks depending on the nature of their work.<br>
><br>
> Not sure if this is a rage quit or long time coming. I'll always miss the<br>
> romantic ideals of noisebridge and I'm disappointed that people didn't want<br>
> to work to find creative solutions to try and preserve them. I truly believe<br>
> that the space began to seriously unravel when the community erected<br>
> associate membership rules, access policies and bureaucratic harassment<br>
> doctrines as a substitute for true excellence.<br>
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> I wish noisebridge all the best and hope someday to be eating these words,<br>
> d.<br>
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