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    Here is Rachel Maddow's famous bikini graph of unemployment.<br>
    <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251320370">http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251320370</a><br>
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    Claudia <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/2014 1:40 AM, rachel lyra
      hospodar wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">I know the pinpoint moment of the economy crash is in
        2008 but the effects took a few years to fully percolate to
        local economies. When they did, via waves of unemployment,
        foreclosure, and defunding, we had a  massive national movement
        of unrest and protest which was violently suppressed by the
        authorities.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Just sayin'.</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On May 14, 2014 9:53 AM, "girlgeek" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:girlgeek@wt.net">girlgeek@wt.net</a>>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Noisebridge started in
            2008, the same year that the economy crashed.<br>
            Claudia<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 5/14/2014 5:39 PM, Jessica Ross wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Just how old is this hackerspace? Just
                wondering.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:12
                  AM, Romy Snowyla <span dir="ltr"><<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:romy@snowyla.com" target="_blank">romy@snowyla.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Wow this is so dramatic. I feel there is a
                        natural change from the initial optimism at the
                        start of a hackerspace. Infighting and issues
                        and lack of enthusiasm in membership naturally
                        follows </div>
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                      <div>Re: the economy - it's been booming around
                        noisebridge in SF.  Most members are working in
                        tech so since the crash we have been doing
                        pretty well financially ., maybe more money less
                        passion and more problems ?</div>
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                        Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                            On May 13, 2014, at 1:39 PM, rachel lyra
                            hospodar <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">rachelyra@gmail.com</a>>

                            wrote:<br>
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                              <p dir="ltr">I personally believe the
                                space began to seriously unravel upon
                                the occasion of the economic unraveling
                                of the entire world, aka the biggest
                                economic crash in living memory, which
                                epically gutted marginal and poor
                                communities, followed by a huge lopsided
                                and region-specific economic boom -
                                which created an epicenter for
                                monumental wealth disparity and growing
                                social discord.</p>
                              <p dir="ltr">I mean, it's fun to point
                                fingers at each other's ideas or efforts
                                as Having Ruined Noisebridge, but I
                                think acknowledging that the larger
                                social picture has an effect on us might
                                alleviate the circle of
                                It-Was-Better-When and open up some
                                space for good-spirited idea-sharing,
                                and learning from each other's differing
                                perspectives.</p>
                              <p dir="ltr">Call me crazy.</p>
                              <p dir="ltr">R.</p>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On May 13, 2014
                                12:46 PM, "Naomi Most" <<a
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                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                  solid;padding-left:1ex"> Your posts
                                  aren't being moderated...<br>
                                  <br>
                                  > I'm disappointed that people
                                  didn't want to work to find creative
                                  solutions to try and preserve them.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Some of us are...<br>
                                  <br>
                                  > I truly believe that the space
                                  began to seriously unravel when the
                                  community erected associate membership
                                  rules, access policies and
                                  bureaucratic harassment doctrines as a
                                  substitute for true excellence.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Me too.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  --Naomi<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:37 PM,
                                  Darius Garza <<a
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                                    href="mailto:313kid@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">313kid@gmail.com</a>>

                                  wrote:<br>
                                  > The jabber is no longer
                                  entertaining and it seems like my
                                  posts are being<br>
                                  > moderated for some reason so I've
                                  finally decided to unsubscribe from
                                  this<br>
                                  > list. The signal to noise ratio
                                  on here is dismal and it's not worth
                                  wading<br>
                                  > through all the petty personal
                                  drama to find the occasional gem.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > I wanted to be more involved with
                                  noisebridge and help the space thrive
                                  but<br>
                                  > it was almost impossible to find
                                  support or make genuine connections
                                  with<br>
                                  > people at the space. Perhaps I
                                  could have tried harder, but the
                                  snarky<br>
                                  > attitudes and constant bickering
                                  put a damper on my motivation.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Hackerspaces are so 2010 anyway.
                                  I don't need a static point of
                                  reference to<br>
                                  > work with a group of bright,
                                  creative individuals or learn new
                                  things. There<br>
                                  > are many places for people to
                                  gather that provide more appropriate
                                  resources<br>
                                  > for folks depending on the nature
                                  of their work.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Not sure if this is a rage quit
                                  or long time coming. I'll always miss
                                  the<br>
                                  > romantic ideals of noisebridge
                                  and I'm disappointed that people
                                  didn't want<br>
                                  > to work to find creative
                                  solutions to try and preserve them. I
                                  truly believe<br>
                                  > that the space began to seriously
                                  unravel when the community erected<br>
                                  > associate membership rules,
                                  access policies and bureaucratic
                                  harassment<br>
                                  > doctrines as a substitute for
                                  true excellence.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > I wish noisebridge all the best
                                  and hope someday to be eating these
                                  words,<br>
                                  > d.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >
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                                  <br>
                                  --<br>
                                  Naomi Theora Most<br>
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                                    target="_blank">naomi@nthmost.com</a><br>
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                                  skype: nthmost<br>
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