<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hello,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.5px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.5px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Selling someone else's stuff could have some seriously unexcellent legal consequences. I was once in a similar situation where I wanted to get rid of an ex-roommate's stuff. The police advised that we put his belongings outside of the house after notifying him that his stuff was going to be removed. It might be a better idea to just
put it out on the street.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.5px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.5px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>-cheers,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.5px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Perry</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, June 9, 2014 12:43 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">So -- in the first incident, Tony heard from a Member that it was<br clear="none">(paraphrasing) "ok to put them there but don't turn them on". That<br clear="none">was 2 weeks ago.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">He turned them on anyway (possibly getting encouragement from Sid).<br clear="none"><br clear="none">He almost certainly knows how much it costs to run ASICs.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I expect this kind of thing from a 3-year-old who needs to be told a<br clear="none">zillion times, not from a grown person.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">But I'll agree
it's more excellent to try to contact him and maybe<br clear="none">give him notice that we're not happy and we're planning to rip this<br clear="none">stuff out and sell it if he doesn't come collect it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">--Naomi<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden<br clear="none"><<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> Thanks, Naomi.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Selling them does seem to be the best course of action, but it would help to<br clear="none">> know whether Tony was told, in some way that we can actually keep a record<br clear="none">> of the communication, to remove these. Just telling him in-person to email<br clear="none">> rack does not seem like enough forewarning before we actually go ahead and<br clear="none">> attempt to dismantle the
cage.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Is he on the discussion list? Does anyone have his email? I'd like to give<br clear="none">> this guy the benefit of the doubt.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Jeffrey<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Naomi Most <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com" href="mailto:pnaomi@gmail.com">pnaomi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Whaaaat. Same person? Really? That surprises me only in the "type"<br clear="none">>> of offense these two different behaviors represent, but I'll believe<br clear="none">>> you if you say so, John.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> For the record, this person's name is Tony Cole.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Noisebridge should sell the bitcoin miners to fund our electrical<br clear="none">>>
refit. Plugging something back in after being told to unplug them,<br clear="none">>> and going as far as covering them in an awkward cage that makes it<br clear="none">>> hard to remove them, strikes me as behavior that doesn't deserve<br clear="none">>> courteous treatment in return.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> --Naomi<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, John Ellis <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com">neurofog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> > Jeffery,<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > Part of the reason why this is so unexcellent is that its contained<br clear="none">>> > within a<br clear="none">>> > locked "animal" cage that is too large to fit through the server closet<br clear="none">>> > door. We'd
have to cut the locks and disassemble or something to move<br clear="none">>> > it.<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > If he doesn't collect it really soon, it should go to e-waste IMO.<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > -John<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden<br clear="none">>> > <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com" href="mailto:jeffreyatw@gmail.com">jeffreyatw@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">>> > wrote:<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> Wow, the same person, huh?<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> What does the bitcoin mining cluster look like? What's the easiest way<br clear="none">>> >> to<br clear="none">>> >> send it to e-waste? Would be happy to help
get rid of it.<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, John Ellis <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com">neurofog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> Claudia,<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> As I understood, this "person" was very promptly and firmly told to<br clear="none">>> >>> remove the parking meter from the space. Due to this (& other)<br clear="none">>> >>> unexcellence,<br clear="none">>> >>> there are people willing to remove him from the space.<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> This same individual installed a bitcoin mining cluster in the server<br clear="none">>> >>> closet, and
repeatedly plugged it in after being told not to without<br clear="none">>> >>> emailing rack list and obtaining further "guidance" - that is pretty<br clear="none">>> >>> unexcellent on a number of levels.<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> I unplugged said cluster last night, because it was noisy as well as<br clear="none">>> >>> an<br clear="none">>> >>> unexcellent misuse of resources.<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> My personal thoughts are that people who cause drama, and don't<br clear="none">>> >>> respect<br clear="none">>> >>> Noisebrige, can get the f*** out. I don't think this requires<br clear="none">>> >>> egregiously<br clear="none">>> >>> bad behavior.<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> -John<br
clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:50 AM, girlgeek <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:girlgeek@wt.net" href="mailto:girlgeek@wt.net">girlgeek@wt.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> >>>><br clear="none">>> >>>> If nobody was wanting to get rid of the perps that is a shame. They<br clear="none">>> >>>> are<br clear="none">>> >>>> unexcellent people who should not be allowed in the space as<br clear="none">>> >>>> demonstrated by<br clear="none">>> >>>> this incident.<br clear="none">>> >>>> Claudia<br clear="none">>> >>>><br clear="none">>> >>>><br clear="none">>> >>>> On 6/9/2014 7:05 AM, Sergiusz 'q3k' Bazański wrote:<br
clear="none">>> >>>>><br clear="none">>> >>>>> I'm not sure. When I left they were still there. It all turned into<br clear="none">>> >>>>> personal drama later on - I can't really say more about that, I<br clear="none">>> >>>>> don't really<br clear="none">>> >>>>> know people's names...<br clear="none">>> >>>>><br clear="none">>> >>>>> But nobody was really wanting to get rid of the perpetrators, from<br clear="none">>> >>>>> what<br clear="none">>> >>>>> I've seen...<br clear="none">>> >>>><br clear="none">>> >>>><br clear="none">>> >>>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> >>>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br clear="none">>> >>>> <a
shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br clear="none">>> >>>> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss</a><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">>> >>> Noisebridge-discuss mailing list<br clear="none">>> >>> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net" href="mailto:Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">Noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br clear="none">>> >>> <a shape="rect"
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