<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I agree with girlgeek that the problem is people didn't want to do their dishes, and too many people who wanted to use Noisebridge as a squat.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">If others agree, I'd rather see the space identified with the function similar to a coffee house seating area, rather than a "breakroom". I think of a breakroom as go there for 15 minutes and gossip, and that's not so awesome. But a place where the design function is to encourage one to sit for 45 minutes and do some work at a table, would be super. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I'd like to participate in moving chairs around tables around to achieve this coffeehouse work-space function, if there is a coalescence of agreement around that plan. And, I'm told that Starbucks research says small round tables are ideal, because if one person is at a table, it is more inviting with a round table for a second and third person to join. So that there are design element encouraging people to exchange of ideas and knowledge within the area. The coffeehouse space function could also double as a meeting space for small groups. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:30 AM, girlgeek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:girlgeek@wt.net" target="_blank">girlgeek@wt.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The supply that is unreliable is tools willing to do their own
dishes.<br>
Claudia <br><div><div class="h5">
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<pre>Earlier today I was thinking about the kitchen conundrum a bit and postulated
that the buildup of dishes is correlated with an unreliable presence of
cleaning tools and supplies.
Does anyone else think this is a reasonable hypothesis and ideas on how to
test/solve in the future?
On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 23:36:55 Andy Isaacson wrote:
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problem with it is that we are subject to health department
regulations, inspections, and need a permit. That's all do-able, but
many members don't like the outside interference that comes with it.
People tell me that they don't want a big kitchen because they don't
need it.
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<pre>Agreed, I think that getting into compliance as a large kitchen would be
a ton of work to support a function that is at odds with the point and
the spirit of Noisebridge.
I want a place to make an occasional coffee and maybe reheat some
leftovers, wash my coffee mug, and fill my water bottle with delicious
Hetch Hetchy water. More than that I don't see the point.
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<pre>I plan to go to Building Resouce, the City recycling center for all
kinds of building features, on Wednesday. Their inventory is all
donated home and business items that are not wanted after a remodel.
Their prices are low to encourage re-use of the items, and keep the
building materials and fixtures out of the dump. What I will be
looking for is a "single bowl" kitchen sink, with a cabinet below. It
will be either a standard one, or I would like to find something
unique and fun, reflecting Noisebridge.
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<pre>Standard seems reasonable (and I like double bowl kitchen sinks, but
whatever). If I were dictator I'd love to see a custom countertop cast
out of concrete or fabbed out of steel or made of epoxied lumber, but
I'm not going to do that work so I don't get to make demands. :)
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<pre>Beyond this equipment, I currently have no other plans for the
kitchen. I want to let do-ocracy and members decide what else they
want for our break room.
Jean-Jacques
Kitchen Team Leader
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<pre>Thanks for doing all of this work.
-andy
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