<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Here are my thoughts.<br><br></div>From reading the user levels here <a href="https://github.com/hzeller/rfid-access-control/blob/master/software/earl/user.go">https://github.com/hzeller/rfid-access-control/blob/master/software/earl/user.go</a> my impression is that the users implementing the system want 'non-anonymous users' to be full Noisebridge Members.<br><br></div>It's been repeated in the past that Membership has only one perk - Block rights for concensus.<br><br></div>I'd like to have early access to Noisebridge and not be a Member. I prefer to donate $ on my own terms and believe that the system as it currently stands makes the statement 'Membership has only one perk - Block rights for concensus.' a lie.<br><br></div>Anyone object to allowing anonymous users early access to Noisebridge?<br><br></div><div>And if I'm incorrect in anything I wrote please do correct me. :-)<br></div><div><br></div>- Harry<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM, kjs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net" target="_blank">bfb@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In this case, I would like to improve the interface for adding fulltimeusers. Am I correct that currently one must edit a text file on Earl's raspPie to assign a key fulltimeuser permissions?<br>
<br>
Also, is there somewhere between sunrise and 11:00 that y'all are comfortable with? Sunrise+2hr? I feel most anon users are good users and key expiry will filter a majority of the bad users.<br>
<br>
-Kevin<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
On April 30, 2015 2:24:46 AM PDT, Mitch Altman <<a href="mailto:maltman23@hotmail.com">maltman23@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>+1 to what Henner suggested: 'fulltimeusers' get extended from sunrise<br>
>to start at sunrise.<br>
><br>
>Best,<br>
>Mitch.<br>
><br>
><br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 22:13:35 -0700<br>
>From: <a href="mailto:h.zeller@acm.org">h.zeller@acm.org</a><br>
>To: <a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net">bfb@riseup.net</a><br>
>CC: <a href="mailto:noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net">noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net</a><br>
>Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at<br>
>sunrise<br>
><br>
>On 29 April 2015 at 20:17, <<a href="mailto:bfb@riseup.net">bfb@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>Hi all,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>At the last several meetings there has been lively discussion to bump<br>
>up our opening time from 11:00 to sunrise. Specifically, Earl, our<br>
>gatekeeper, is configured for three user types.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>Earl currently opens when an RFID key is scanned for:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>anonymous users from 11:00 - 22:00<br>
><br>
>deanonymized users from 7:00 - 23:59<br>
><br>
>root users with 24 hour access<br>
><br>
>the second group is actually 'fulltimeusers', which is like the other<br>
>users as well and 'could' be anonymous, but in practice isn't (but<br>
>should probably be a requirement).<br>
><br>
><br>
>The proposal is to change this to:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>anonymous users from sunrise - 22:00<br>
><br>
>deanonymized users form sunrise - 23:59<br>
><br>
>root users with 24 hour access<br>
><br>
>I would _not_ put anonymous users in the sunrise category. We give out<br>
>tokens pretty freely these days, and I would like to continue this<br>
>welcoming gesture. However, if this brings in the burden to really,<br>
>really be sure that this is a person I can 100% trust, then giving out<br>
>tokens will be slowed down; which is not what we want. Someone coming<br>
>in in early hours should be explicitly put into that category.<br>
>So I would like to have people who can access the space in the early<br>
>hours to be known and explicitly put in the 'fulltimeuser' category.<br>
><br>
>But I am (personally) ok with having 'fulltimeuser' extended in the<br>
>morning to sunrise (and would slightly endorse it).<br>
>-h<br>
><br>
><br>
>To accomplish this we use the <a href="https://github.com/cpucycle/astrotime" target="_blank">https://github.com/cpucycle/astrotime</a><br>
>library. The code is in place, perhaps ready to deploy.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>How do others feel about this change? If you're curious, have a look at<br>
>meeting discussions.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_07" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_07</a><br>
><br>
><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_21" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_21</a><br>
><br>
><a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_28" target="_blank">https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_28</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>Some salient points for me include:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>Early birds have described friction with the 11:00 opening hour<br>
><br>
>Noisebridge is lonely when empty<br>
><br>
>Noisebridge prospers when used, not abused<br>
><br>
>Early birds want to hack between sunrise and 11:00 at Noisebridge<br>
><br>
>Updating RFID keys with contact information requires editing a text<br>
>file (not currently supported via the touchpad interface)<br>
><br>
>Decoupling Noisebridge from an arbitrary and obsolete governmental<br>
>definition, the PDT/PST flux, is nice<br>
><br>
>Sunrise is beautiful<br>
><br>
>If the change is not working out, we can always roll back<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>Thanks much for reading,<br>
><br>
>Kevin<br>
><br>
><br>
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