<div dir="ltr">Take jim's message as a request for documentation, not necessarily a refusal to do his own research. After reading all the original sources I can find, the accounts don't describe someone who I'd be close friends or get in bed with, but that bar is a bit higher than "I never want to be in the same room as him". The anonymous nature of the announcement and non-public reasoning that led to it is definitely weird.<div><br></div><div>More generally (i.e. NOT about this case in particular): smear campaigns do happen, and if whatever process is in place for banning folks doesn't protect people from being targets, then being part of the community becomes a risk for those who work on things someone might want to retaliate against. That's not unequivocally a good or a bad thing, just something that affects the nature of the community.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Ceren Ercen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ceren@ercen.com" target="_blank">ceren@ercen.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Try doing the absolute minimum of Google searches before complaining or waving conspiracy theories around. You'll come off as less uninformed. Don't complain when we don't do your Google searches for you.</p>
<p dir="ltr"> And for the rest of you who "never noticed anything wrong".... that's on you. And you may want to take a moment and examine yourself, to consider why you overlooked years of warning signs. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Also, I'm only disappointed that there hadn't been discussion of this problem on this list, yet, but as I'm not physically located nearby SF this year, I decided it wasn't my place to open one.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Jun 10, 2016 9:06 PM, "jim" <<a href="mailto:jim@well.com" target="_blank">jim@well.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<font face="monospace"><a href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Statement_on_Jacob_Appelbaum" target="_blank">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Statement_on_Jacob_Appelbaum</a>
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This is coming out of the blue for me. I have <br>
heard no claims against Jake for any reason. <br>
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My questions are <br>
* who wrote this <br>
* what is the basis of the claims against Jake? <br>
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The anonymity of the writer makes me suspicious. <br>
The lack of information behind the primary claim <br>
makes me suspicious. <br>
This may be an artifact of a smear campaign. <br>
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I'm presenting my concern to the Noisebridge-discuss <br>
mailing list hoping for information. I really hope <br>
this does not develop into an emotional discussion. <br>
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