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    <font face="monospace">Thank you, Andrey, <br>
          It would have been difficult for me to find <br>
      the links you included. <br>
          I'm sending this off-list so's not to promote <br>
      more discussion (which might get heated...). <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/11/2016 02:46 AM, Andrey Fedorov
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Take jim's message as a request for documentation,
        not necessarily a refusal to do his own research. After reading
        all the original sources I can find, the accounts don't describe
        someone who I'd be close friends or get in bed with, but that
        bar is a bit higher than "I never want to be in the same room as
        him". The anonymous nature of the announcement and non-public
        reasoning that led to it is definitely weird.
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        <div>More generally (i.e. NOT about this case in particular):
          smear campaigns do happen, and if whatever process is in place
          for banning folks doesn't protect people from being targets,
          then being part of the community becomes a risk for those who
          work on things someone might want to retaliate against. That's
          not unequivocally a good or a bad thing, just something that
          affects the nature of the community.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Ceren
          Ercen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ceren@ercen.com" target="_blank">ceren@ercen.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">Try doing the absolute minimum of Google
              searches before complaining or waving conspiracy theories
              around. You'll come off as less uninformed. Don't complain
              when we don't do your Google searches for you.</p>
            <p dir="ltr"> And for the rest of you who "never noticed
              anything wrong".... that's on you. And you may want to
              take a moment and examine yourself, to consider why you
              overlooked years of warning signs. </p>
            <p dir="ltr">Also, I'm only disappointed that there hadn't
              been discussion of this problem on this list, yet, but as
              I'm not physically located nearby SF this year, I decided
              it wasn't my place to open one.</p>
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                <div class="h5">On Jun 10, 2016 9:06 PM, "jim" <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim@well.com"
                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jim@well.com">jim@well.com</a></a>> wrote:<br
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                           <font face="monospace">I subxcribe to the
                        Noisebridge-announce mailing <br>
                        list. Today I received email from <br>
                        <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:noisebridge@riseup.net"
                          target="_blank">noisebridge@riseup.net</a> <br>
                        <br>
                        sent to the Noisebridge-announce list. Here is
                        the <br>
                        entire content of the body of the message: <br>
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                      <font face="monospace"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Statement_on_Jacob_Appelbaum"
                          target="_blank">https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_Statement_on_Jacob_Appelbaum</a>
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                        Below is my reply to the message: <br>
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                            This is coming out of the blue for me. I
                        have <br>
                        heard no claims against Jake for any reason. <br>
                        <br>
                            My questions are <br>
                        * who wrote this <br>
                        * what is the basis of the claims against Jake?
                        <br>
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                           The anonymity of the writer makes me
                        suspicious. <br>
                           The lack of information behind the primary
                        claim <br>
                        makes me suspicious. <br>
                           This may be an artifact of a smear campaign.
                        <br>
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                           I'm presenting my concern to the
                        Noisebridge-discuss <br>
                        mailing list hoping for information. I really
                        hope <br>
                        this does not develop into an emotional
                        discussion. <br>
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