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<p>Zach - Yes, walkie-talkies.</p>
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<p>Jeremy - Thank you for providing more context. I would like to
learn more about what happened. I'm happy to take it off-line or
continue on the list, whatever folks are most comfortable with.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/17 5:13 PM, Zach R wrote:<br>
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<p>Thanks so much for your thoughtul reply Kevin Prime.</p>
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<p>I like your ideas on elevator safety. Maybe some kind of
intercom with the upstairs for emergencies? It wouldn't be a
hard thing to hack. Even some old walkie talkies could do the
trick, secured in place with a power source.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 24, 2017 4:56 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Broken
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<div class="PlainText">I had no idea this is why the
elevator is out of order. Thank you for
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sharing Zach. Ping me if I can help realize any of your
proposals below.<br>
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What is the recommended way to respond to being trapped
in the elevator? <br>
Ideally there's a button to push in case of emergency
that establishes a <br>
bidirectional communication link with the 3rd floor. In
lieu of such a <br>
button, a cell phone with service/wifi could be
sufficient. Assuming <br>
neither of those things exist.. what's the best next
step? Holler until <br>
analog communication is established?<br>
<br>
Also, how did the person in the elevator respond in this
case? I am <br>
struggling to fill in some gaps in my mind and some
clarity might help <br>
understand how we dropped the ball on deescalation and
could improve in <br>
the future.<br>
<br>
Thanks much,<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
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On 6/24/17 3:52 PM, Revolt wrote:<br>
> <<sending this from another address since my
emails keep bouncing from<br>
> my other addy>><br>
><br>
> I am very concerned about the incident that
happened at Noisebridge<br>
> recently regarding the police coming and breaking
the elevator and<br>
> arresting a homeless transgender person.
Completely aside from the<br>
> fact that this broken elevator keeps me from
entering the space now (I<br>
> use a wheelchair) and will probably keep me out of
the space for<br>
> weeks, there are some thoughts I would like to
share:<br>
><br>
> As a longtime member of the community I believe NB
has struggled over<br>
> the years with de-escalation and people have been
far too quick to<br>
> include law enforcement. The police in San
Francsico are infamous for<br>
> their unnecessary use of force and I do not want
Noisebridge to be<br>
> associated with violence of this or any kind. I
was told by someone<br>
> present at the arrest that the police had come in
with weapons,<br>
> including an assault rifle. This is /completely
unacceptable/ and<br>
> presents a far greater threat to safety and people
visiting the space<br>
> than just some person yelling in an elevator.<br>
><br>
> The fact that a person got trapped in our
notoriously unsafe and<br>
> confusing elevator and was then confronted with
police brandishing<br>
> fatal weapons and what sounds like homophobic
responses is really<br>
> problematic on all fronts. Even if the elevator
hadn't been broken,<br>
> this would not be cool.<br>
><br>
> I propose the following:<br>
><br>
> 1. Let us educate ourselves as a community on
de-escalation<br>
> techniques. Keeping incidents like this from
escalating will also<br>
> keep up in better favor with landlords and police
and everyone else.<br>
> I have worked with the homeless population over the
years and have<br>
> been close with people living on the streets and
people in the LGBTQ<br>
> an POC communities. Let's create better dialogue
by:<br>
><br>
> a) Hosting a de-escalation event at
Noisebridge. I am happy to help<br>
> with this. I am sure there are others with
knowledge to share and<br>
> many simple techniques can prevent problematic
incidents.<br>
><br>
> b) Host a "get to know your neighbors" type
event where we could<br>
> learn more about those that have lost their homes
in this economic<br>
> recession and create a more humanizing image and
dialog. I bet<br>
> organizations like the Coalition on Homelessness
and others would be<br>
> willing to speak or help out.<br>
><br>
> c) Host an LGBTQ awareness event at NB
(it's Pride week after all!)<br>
> There are a lot of people at NB who have recently
moved to SF and<br>
> might not know the dos and don'ts of respectful
communication with<br>
> people in the LGBTQ community. Let's learn from
each other.<br>
> Conversations have been happening on a one-on-one
basis but I think NB<br>
> would greatly benefit from a larger discussion.<br>
><br>
> and<br>
> 2. Let's make a /clear typed posting/ in the
elevator of what to do in<br>
> emergencies or if you feel trapped. An emergency
contact number and<br>
> basic safety procedures would go a long way.<br>
><br>
> I have friends who identify as female and friends
that identify as<br>
> transgender who no longer come to Noisebridge
because they feel unsafe<br>
> and discriminated against in the space. They are
very talented people<br>
> that have a lot to contribute and there are others
as well. Let's<br>
> step up our game our educate one another and keep
the space safe and<br>
> as drama-free as possible with less police and
broken elevators.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -Zach<br>
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