<html><head><meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type" /></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Well. Those drives are some of the worst drives I ever bought. Hence why they ended up at NB. :-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On February 19, 2014 8:19:00 PM CET, Casey Callendrello <c1@caseyc.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">They might still be good then. All I
know is that LVM was complaining about the pony volume being gone.
I didn't research further -- sometimes I go to NB to hack, I swear
:-)<br />
<br />
--Casey<br />
<br />
On 2/19/14, 11:14 AM, Ben Kochie wrote:<br />
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<blockquote cite="mid:alpine.DEB.2.10.1402191104550.6297@chef.nerp.net" type="cite">The 4x 1.5T drives that are in the machine were
donated by me a few years ago when the 1T drives in it were on
their way out.
<br />
<br />
If we don't mind refurb:
<br />
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236260">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236260</a>
<br />
$99 2T RE4 drive.
<br />
<br />
Or Seagate 2T for $160
<br />
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148825">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148825</a>
<br />
<br />
-ben
<br />
<br />
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
<br />
<br />
<blockquote type="cite">So we did some talking after last night's
meeting. We want new drives since Casey thinks one or
<br />
more of the drives in stallion was also bad or dying. I was
thinking we could spend less on
<br />
some of the other parts. We thought around the beginning goal
of 572 would be a great place to
<br />
start. I think part of the beef of stallion is that they were
not enterprise drives. I think
<br />
we could swing for 4x500 gig new enterprise drives or maybe even
1tb, depending on price.
<br />
I think we basically agreed that IPMI is a requirement so my
idea of the celeron board is a bad
<br />
idea TM.
<br />
<br />
<br />
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ronald Cotoni
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a> wrote:
<br />
We did find a good home! We can use it for other things (
as long as we don't leave
<br />
it on all the time). I am going to be starting a sysadmin
class at noisebridge and
<br />
it would make an ideal machine for teaching since it has
VT and a bunch of storage.
<br />
It would be great for the students to setup Vagrant,
Openstack and other things on
<br />
from scratch on a regular basis.
<br />
<br />
<br />
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John Ellis
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com"><neurofog@gmail.com></a> wrote:
<br />
Ronald,
<br />
<br />
I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of
good.
<br />
$300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.
<br />
<br />
If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be
ewaste, I
<br />
can find a good home for it :)
<br />
<br />
Cheers!
<br />
John
<br />
<br />
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ben@nerp.net"><ben@nerp.net></a> wrote:
<br />
> 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.
<br />
>
<br />
> My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.
<br />
>
<br />
> Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.
<br />
>
<br />
>
<br />
> On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a>
<br />
> wrote:
<br />
>>
<br />
>> Spot on. 200 watts. Is it worth it though since we
are not buying
<br />
>> anything?
<br />
>>
<br />
>>
<br />
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a> wrote:
<br />
>>>
<br />
>>> You are right. Let me see if I can find the kill o
watt.
<br />
>>>
<br />
>>>
<br />
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ben@nerp.net"><ben@nerp.net></a> wrote:
<br />
>>>>
<br />
>>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly
uses FB-DIMMs. I thought
<br />
>>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will
likely be 200+W machines.
<br />
>>>> Unfortunately E-waste.
<br />
>>>>
<br />
>>>>
<br />
>>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald
Cotoni <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a>
<br />
>>>> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0
dollars. Kellan Jacobs donated
<br />
>>>>> some servers to noisebridge. One was a
nice fancy Xeon E5405 with 8gb of
<br />
>>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's. I was going to setup
a raid 1 mirror with the other
<br />
>>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how
good they are). What do you all
<br />
>>>>> think? Also would anyone mind debian on it
or should we have something else
<br />
>>>>> on it?
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald
Cotoni <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a>
<br />
>>>>> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>> How much do we wanna spend? I have a
feeling stallion could use some
<br />
>>>>>> new drives as well.
<br />
>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald
Cotoni <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a>
<br />
>>>>>> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>> Totally valid. I was trying to go
cheap and low power for cost
<br />
>>>>>>> reasons. Maybe we would not need
IPMI if we could get a select team to
<br />
>>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps
even monitor that it is up.
<br />
>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben
Kochie" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ben@nerp.net"><ben@nerp.net></a> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>> There were two reason I was
suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.
<br />
>>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more
stable)
<br />
>>>>>>>> * IPMI
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had
issues where things were broken for
<br />
>>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space
seems capable of plugging in a VGA cable
<br />
>>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let
us debug boot issues from remote.
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you
suggested support VM, just want to
<br />
>>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in
any replacement option.
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>> -ben
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald
Cotoni wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Doh. I suck at mail.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> I was thinking something
significantly cheaper and lower power.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini
it
<br />
>>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of
ram and spending more like 80 but on
<br />
>>>>>>>>> the board and processor.
I
<br />
>>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u
boards that have TV 2 cores and usb 3.0.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> They also have a pic
<br />
>>>>>>>>> express card. I have even
seen some with dual ethernet. There
<br />
>>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion
<br />
>>>>>>>>> boards too. The whole
machine would hopefully have a TDP of under
<br />
>>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when
<br />
>>>>>>>>> loaded. What do you all
think? Something
<br />
>>>>>>>>> like
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679</a> but
<br />
>>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci
<br />
>>>>>>>>> express slot.
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at
12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ben@nerp.net"><ben@nerp.net></a> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>> There is a 2U case on
my member shelf that was destined to
<br />
>>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> It has a
over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was planning to
<br />
>>>>>>>>> replace with somehting
<br />
>>>>>>>>> less hungry.
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387</a><br />
>>>>>>>>> Combo Deal: $340
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Xeon E3-1220V3
Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907</a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Supermicro
MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820</a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> 2x 8G DDR3 ECC
(un-buff) $210
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770</a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> 1U heatsink
(Supermicro) $22
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298</a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Total: $572
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> -ben
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014,
Casey Callendrello wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> The closet is
clear, but I'm pretty sure Stallion has
<br />
>>>>>>>>> thrown off its
<br />
>>>>>>>>> mortal coil.
The last time
<br />
>>>>>>>>> I poked at it,
one of the NICs was bad, the graphics
<br />
>>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and
<br />
>>>>>>>>> (worst of all)
the lvm
<br />
>>>>>>>>> volume for Pony
is failing to mount.
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> I think it's
time we pour one out for our dead homies
<br />
>>>>>>>>> and throw in a
<br />
>>>>>>>>> low-power
replacement.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> --Casey
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/14,
11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>> I should
also add that I'm happy to help get it
<br />
>>>>>>>>> healthy again, but
<br />
>>>>>>>>> as a
non-regular
<br />
>>>>>>>>> user busy
with my life elsewhere, I haven't been
<br />
>>>>>>>>> super motivated
<br />
>>>>>>>>> to dive in and
fix
<br />
>>>>>>>>> it.
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Maybe start
with a working monitor/keyboard on
<br />
>>>>>>>>> stallion? Last I was
<br />
>>>>>>>>> there to try
and fix
<br />
>>>>>>>>> it, I couldn't
reach the back of Susan the Rack (there
<br />
>>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U
<br />
>>>>>>>>> 4-poster wedged
<br />
>>>>>>>>> into the other
side of that closet)
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11,
2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff
<br />
>>>>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jof@thejof.com"><jof@thejof.com></a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Pony has
been offline for a long time. I can no
<br />
>>>>>>>>> longer reach it
<br />
>>>>>>>>> from remote.
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11,
2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni
<br />
>>>>>>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:setient@gmail.com"><setient@gmail.com></a>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
<br />
>>>>>>>>> I heard
that it is having some issues and most of
<br />
>>>>>>>>> the people who
<br />
>>>>>>>>> were
<br />
>>>>>>>>> involved
with it this. I also just saw a message
<br />
>>>>>>>>> about the
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
next_meeting.py that ran on it which is no longer
<br />
>>>>>>>>> running. Is
<br />
>>>>>>>>> there any
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
assistance needed getting it stable?
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>> --
<br />
>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
Systems Engineer
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Ronald CotoniSystems
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
<br />
>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
<br />
>>>>>> Systems Engineer
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>>
<br />
>>>>> --
<br />
>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
<br />
>>>>> Systems Engineer
<br />
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> --
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>>> Ronald Cotoni
<br />
>>> Systems Engineer
<br />
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> Ronald Cotoni
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>> Systems Engineer
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