<div dir="ltr">So we did some talking after last night's meeting. We want new drives since Casey thinks one or more of the drives in stallion was also bad or dying. I was thinking we could spend less on some of the other parts. We thought around the beginning goal of 572 would be a great place to start. I think part of the beef of stallion is that they were not enterprise drives. I think we could swing for 4x500 gig new enterprise drives or maybe even 1tb, depending on price. <div>
<br></div><div>I think we basically agreed that IPMI is a requirement so my idea of the celeron board is a bad idea TM. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Ronald Cotoni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We did find a good home! We can use it for other things ( as long as we don't leave it on all the time). I am going to be starting a sysadmin class at noisebridge and it would make an ideal machine for teaching since it has VT and a bunch of storage. It would be great for the students to setup Vagrant, Openstack and other things on from scratch on a regular basis. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neurofog@gmail.com" target="_blank">neurofog@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ronald,<br>
<br>
I'm all for saving energy, but perfection is the enemy of good.<br>
$300/yr for powering a main server isn't excessive.<br>
<br>
If people really do think 200W is excessive and should be ewaste, I<br>
can find a good home for it :)<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
<span><font color="#888888">John<br>
</font></span><div><br>
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Kochie <<a href="mailto:ben@nerp.net" target="_blank">ben@nerp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div>> 200W = 1.7MWh = $300 per year.<br>
><br>
> My 6 drive sandy bridge machine is 70W at idle.<br>
><br>
> Maybe worth some $ to reduce long term cost.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On February 16, 2014 8:55:30 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Spot on. 200 watts. Is it worth it though since we are not buying<br>
>> anything?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> You are right. Let me see if I can find the kill o watt.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Ben Kochie <<a href="mailto:ben@nerp.net" target="_blank">ben@nerp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The E5405 (harpertown), if I remember correctly uses FB-DIMMs. I thought<br>
>>>> we wanted to reduce the power use. These will likely be 200+W machines.<br>
>>>> Unfortunately E-waste.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On February 16, 2014 8:35:14 PM CET, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> So this has been actually solved with 0 dollars. Kellan Jacobs donated<br>
>>>>> some servers to noisebridge. One was a nice fancy Xeon E5405 with 8gb of<br>
>>>>> ram and 4x 2tb hd's. I was going to setup a raid 1 mirror with the other<br>
>>>>> two drives as spares (I do not know how good they are). What do you all<br>
>>>>> think? Also would anyone mind debian on it or should we have something else<br>
>>>>> on it?<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> How much do we wanna spend? I have a feeling stallion could use some<br>
>>>>>> new drives as well.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ronald Cotoni <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Totally valid. I was trying to go cheap and low power for cost<br>
>>>>>>> reasons. Maybe we would not need IPMI if we could get a select team to<br>
>>>>>>> actually go to the space, perhaps even monitor that it is up.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2014 8:20 AM, "Ben Kochie" <<a href="mailto:ben@nerp.net" target="_blank">ben@nerp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> There were two reason I was suggesting the Supermicro+Xeon.<br>
>>>>>>>> * ECC RAM (would be more stable)<br>
>>>>>>>> * IPMI<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> For a very long time we've had issues where things were broken for<br>
>>>>>>>> weeks, and nobody in the space seems capable of plugging in a VGA cable<br>
>>>>>>>> anymore. Having IPMI would let us debug boot issues from remote.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> I think most of the boards you suggested support VM, just want to<br>
>>>>>>>> make sure we keep VM support in any replacement option.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> -ben<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Ronald Cotoni wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Doh. I suck at mail.<br>
>>>>>>>>> I was thinking something significantly cheaper and lower power.<br>
>>>>>>>>> More like one of those mini it<br>
>>>>>>>>> boards with 16 gigabytes of ram and spending more like 80 but on<br>
>>>>>>>>> the board and processor. I<br>
>>>>>>>>> saw some nice celery 1037u boards that have TV 2 cores and usb 3.0.<br>
>>>>>>>>> They also have a pic<br>
>>>>>>>>> express card. I have even seen some with dual ethernet. There<br>
>>>>>>>>> are some similar AMD fusion<br>
>>>>>>>>> boards too. The whole machine would hopefully have a TDP of under<br>
>>>>>>>>> 100 watts even when<br>
>>>>>>>>> loaded. What do you all think? Something<br>
>>>>>>>>> like <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-679</a> but<br>
>>>>>>>>> with usb 3.0 and a pci<br>
>>>>>>>>> express slot.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Ben Kochie <<a href="mailto:ben@nerp.net" target="_blank">ben@nerp.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> There is a 2U case on my member shelf that was destined to<br>
>>>>>>>>> become the new stallion.<br>
>>>>>>>>> It has a over-powered 2 CPU motherboard I was planning to<br>
>>>>>>>>> replace with somehting<br>
>>>>>>>>> less hungry.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519387</a><br>
>>>>>>>>> Combo Deal: $340<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Xeon E3-1220V3 Haswell 3.1GHz 4-core<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Supermicro MBD-X10SLM-F-O - uATX<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182820</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> 2x 8G DDR3 ECC (un-buff) $210<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148770</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> 1U heatsink (Supermicro) $22<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101298</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Total: $572<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> -ben<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2014, Casey Callendrello wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> The closet is clear, but I'm pretty sure Stallion has<br>
>>>>>>>>> thrown off its<br>
>>>>>>>>> mortal coil. The last time<br>
>>>>>>>>> I poked at it, one of the NICs was bad, the graphics<br>
>>>>>>>>> card was flaky, and<br>
>>>>>>>>> (worst of all) the lvm<br>
>>>>>>>>> volume for Pony is failing to mount.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I think it's time we pour one out for our dead homies<br>
>>>>>>>>> and throw in a<br>
>>>>>>>>> low-power replacement.<br>
>>>>>>>>> --Casey<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/11/14, 11:56 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> I should also add that I'm happy to help get it<br>
>>>>>>>>> healthy again, but<br>
>>>>>>>>> as a non-regular<br>
>>>>>>>>> user busy with my life elsewhere, I haven't been<br>
>>>>>>>>> super motivated<br>
>>>>>>>>> to dive in and fix<br>
>>>>>>>>> it.<br>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe start with a working monitor/keyboard on<br>
>>>>>>>>> stallion? Last I was<br>
>>>>>>>>> there to try and fix<br>
>>>>>>>>> it, I couldn't reach the back of Susan the Rack (there<br>
>>>>>>>>> was a giant 40+U<br>
>>>>>>>>> 4-poster wedged<br>
>>>>>>>>> into the other side of that closet)<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Lassoff<br>
>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:jof@thejof.com" target="_blank">jof@thejof.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> Pony has been offline for a long time. I can no<br>
>>>>>>>>> longer reach it<br>
>>>>>>>>> from remote.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Ronald Cotoni<br>
>>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:setient@gmail.com" target="_blank">setient@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> I heard that it is having some issues and most of<br>
>>>>>>>>> the people who<br>
>>>>>>>>> were<br>
>>>>>>>>> involved with it this. I also just saw a message<br>
>>>>>>>>> about the<br>
>>>>>>>>> next_meeting.py that ran on it which is no longer<br>
>>>>>>>>> running. Is<br>
>>>>>>>>> there any<br>
>>>>>>>>> assistance needed getting it stable?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> Ronald CotoniSystems Engineer<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Ronald Cotoni<br>
>>>>>> Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Ronald Cotoni<br>
>>>>> Systems Engineer<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Ronald Cotoni<br>
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><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Ronald Cotoni<div>Systems Engineer</div>
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