<html><head></head><body>We have our setup such that internal users ssid is on 5ghz, and our guest is 2.4ghz. Since our users are 95% Mac, and 5% thinkpad, this works well. We also do not allow mobile devices on the internal ssid.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On August 6, 2014 8:09:33 PM CEST, Rubin Abdi <rubin@starset.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">The UAP/UAP-PRO aren't routers for what it's worth. They're only a wifi<br />radio hooked up to an ethernet port, nothing more. You'll still need<br />something on the network to providing routing to the internet.<br /><br />Their proprietary zero handoff works really great if you've running less<br />than 5 clients. I'm guessing the use case is something like inventory<br />laptops walking through a very large warehouse. With anything more than<br />5 clients the thing is total garbage and shouldn't be used.<br /><br />As far as non proprietary client side roaming goes, in practice I've<br />found most Apple devices, many Androids, and my Linux laptop running<br />wpasupplicant 1.1 with an Intel wifi NIC, roaming fine. All devices are<br />happy to hop from AP to AP without much fuss or user intervention after<br />a minute or two of realizing it has less noise from another AP.<br /><br />2.4/5gHz is a different story. In my humble opinion 2.4gHz coming off
of<br />these devices is fucking good. I am now only recommending the<br />costs-4-times-more UAP-PROs only if what you need is massive bandwidth<br />beyond everyday internet access which you can get with 5gHz (and by<br />bandwidth I mean 100mbit and beyond). 2.4gHz alone is sufficient (with<br />the appropriate amount of radios in the space) for most use cases such<br />as fast internet browsing, and also way more affordable. I honestly<br />believe Noisebridge could get away with 3 2.4gHz UAPs installed for<br />about $160 than two UAP-PROs at $400.<br /><br />The RSSI stuff is a nice option but it's still too finicky of a setting<br />for any sort of production use (requires a lot of testing and hand<br />holding), and the whole system right now works pretty well as is just as<br />long as your client isn't being super stupid.<br /><br />There is also the annoyance of choosing a channel. Placing the choice on<br />users to pick what's best kinda sucks in reality, so I've
started doing<br />this...<br /><br />sitename - Attached to both 2.4 and 5gHz radios<br />sitename 5g - Attached to 5gHz radio only<br /><br />Most users will connect to the first network as they will either not see<br />5g or honestly wont know what that means and not bother. If their<br />hardware only support 2.4gHz they'll connect to that. If both are<br />supported, the device will (hopefully) make the best decision on which<br />to initially connect to (almost always 2.4gHz first) then roam when it<br />feels like a different radio is a better choice. Apple hardware is<br />really good at this, my test Androids are so/so, wpasupplicant fucking<br />sucks and would much rather connect to a horse's ass before ever even<br />thinking of connecting to a better link.<br /><br />With all that being said, when using a $60 UAP, 5gHz is really over<br />rated and not worth the money and hassle if all you're just going to<br />provide is speedy net access. In all honesty you should be
able to<br />connect 50-60 clients to each radio without much noticeable degradation<br />in wifi performance. I believe 100-120 clients per radio is where they<br />start to actually crap out.<br /><br />And for what it's worth, running the controller 24/7 doesn't actually<br />effect performance or load balancing or anything like that. All the<br />controller is good for is configuring and monitoring. The access points<br />are more than happy to talk to each other and help each other when<br />needed, but that too is fairly minimal. I also recommend running the<br />controller not in the space but somewhere else on the internet. It has<br />proven helpful in aiding friends with network woes remotely.<br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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