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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/28/2013 6:19 PM, Vaughn wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I have been a local PC tech and Nightclub security
for almost 20 years in San Francisco. I don't really care about
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Noisebridge is called a "hackerspace". Do you feel we should stop
calling it that?<br>
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Being a PC tech is not hacking. <br>
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What does Nightclub security have to do with hacking? NB is not a
nightclub. <br>
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<div>If I buzzed someone up I always greet them, and I do not
buzz after 11pm or 10am per consented policy.<br>
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someone buzzed him in, i was standing right there. Nobody came down
to check who it was. <br>
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<div>I do NOT get paid to be docent, or literally risk my life
at nights when I stick around. <br>
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if you're not comfortable with the gig, don't do it.<br>
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But i agree docents need some structure or tools to help them
enforce policies. not really sure what they would be.... Turning off
the buzzer after 11pm might be a good one. <br>
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<div>As a docent it is total pain in my ass to not know if I
just let some camper up carrying heavy packs and looking to
"use the bathroom" and then crash in a corner. <br>
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when i left, you were sitting at the front desk, right before that
dude got buzzed in. <br>
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this is the docents mail list, where docents routinely report about
problem people and problem activities in the space. nothing
personal. <br>
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i go to nb to socialize with hackers and makers. nothing personal. <br>
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type="cite">I cannot read your mind that you are a member, and of
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i'm not a member, just somebody who actually makes stuff and leads
making workshops at NB, for about 4 years, like the Theremin hack i
organized at nb over the past few days. I'm sometimes a docent. <br>
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I was in the space late because i organized a public hacking-related
event at nb. If i was wrong to be in the space at that time, then i
accept any consequences. i suggest the "member sponsor" not require
the physical presence of the sponsor, which i think has been
discussed. <br>
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by the way, i do not see the 11pm policy on the nb wiki. Anybody
know why?<br>
<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_Items_History">https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus_Items_History</a><br>
<a href="https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items">https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Current_Consensus_Items</a><br>
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