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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have a very large hoard of spare ISI
      supplies including filaments.  Doesn't matter though if I can't
      pull a good vacuum first<br>
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      On 12/15/2014 06:54 PM, Jeff Miller wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418691070495_62709"><span
            id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418691070495_62725">BTW I saw your blog,
            sounds like you need a new filament. They burn out every 25
            hours or so. I hope you got the filament holder/whenelt.
            They are consumables but $$ and frequently pirated. I think
            most for ISI are the same, I have a few in fair condition I
            might sell one.</span></div>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_1_1418691070495_62725">-Jeff</span></div>
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                face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
                    style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John
                McMaster <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johndmcmaster@gmail.com"><johndmcmaster@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jeff
                Miller <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mysterylectricity@yahoo.com"><mysterylectricity@yahoo.com></a>; Chris Murphy
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chrisnoisebridge@gmail.com"><chrisnoisebridge@gmail.com></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sem@lists.noisebridge.net">"sem@lists.noisebridge.net"</a>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sem@lists.noisebridge.net"><sem@lists.noisebridge.net></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Friday, December 12, 2014 7:09 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: All in on the mini-SEM?<br>
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                  <div class="yiv5747781064moz-cite-prefix">Heyo,<br
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                    I haven't followed the noisebridge unit, but some
                    updates on my side if anyone is curious.<br
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                    I traced the vacuum leak to the column in my Super
                    IIIA.  I'm having trouble safely taking apart the
                    column to troubleshoot further.<br clear="none">
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                    Over the previous weekend I picked up a small ISI
                    SEM similar to the noisebridge unit ($500 + drive to
                    LA and back).  Some details on it here: <a
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                      href="http://uvicrec.blogspot.com/2014/12/theyre-multiplying.html">http://uvicrec.blogspot.com/2014/12/theyre-multiplying.html</a><br
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                    The guy also threw in a carbon coater.<br
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                    Anyway, it has a broken PMT and needs a small vacuum
                    adapter that should have come in the mail today. 
                    PMT has unknown ETA but I could steal a spare off of
                    the Super IIIA if I wanted to test sooner.<br
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                    I also have a *huge* (over 100 lbs) pile of ISI
                    documents (schematics, mechanical drawings, service
                    notes, etc) I've been scanning in that one of their
                    retired lead techs gave me.  Maybe this weekend I'll
                    finish the digitaization process and begin
                    uploading/organizing them.<br clear="none">
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                    I have a small Pfeiffer/Balzers turbo pump system I
                    assembled off of eBay for under $500.  It was chosen
                    specifically because parts for this particular
                    system are readily available to piece together.  Of
                    course, it would be hit or miss if the bearings are
                    sub-optimal but I imagine often times they will be
                    good enough for hobbyist use.  I'd suggest others
                    looking into the same route before dropping 1k on a
                    restore kit.  I haven't decided if I'm going to
                    attach it to the SEM once it works better.<br
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                    I get class 10k using a high power Honeywell HEPA
                    filter in my bedroom.  Very cheap and easy to setup.<br
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                    John<br clear="none">
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                    On 12/12/2014 05:56 PM, Jeff Miller wrote:<br
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_19032">I
                          think we should give the mini-sem project a
                          second chance. <br clear="none">
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_19511">I've
                          been thinking about what the SEM experience at
                          NB drove home.</div>
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_19126"><br
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_19127">We
                          should think small and practical. <br
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_19514">Rather
                          than a clean room, let's think glovebox. Small
                          glovebox, easy enough to fab.<br clear="none">
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_25952">The
                          manual vacuum controls have to go. It should
                          all be electric valves, interlocked and goof
                          proof.</div>
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_25954">The
                          coater should be integrated, and interlocked
                          with the SEM to use the same pump(s). <br
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                          Perhaps a small, low temp vacuum oven for
                          drying bugs and plant samples, too.<br
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_28675">The
                          console has to more or less go. We have to
                          commit to the digital platform I developed, or
                          develop a new one. </div>
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_39480">Ideally,

                          the diff pump and forepump should be
                          replaced.with a turbo and a diaphragm pump.
                          With that we get instant on, no exhaust fumes.
                          and no periodic cleaning of the column parts.</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_42482">Alcatel

                          makes a high speed molecular drag pump. I may
                          be wrong, but I don't think it has stator
                          blades. So I think you can up-to-air it at
                          full speed with no damage, and it may be able
                          to choke down a grain of sand or two without
                          exploding. It will be mounted upside down of
                          course. <br clear="none">
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_43638">The
                          vacuum isn't as deep as theoretical for a
                          turbo or diff pump, but is more than
                          sufficient for a SEM and coater. <br
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_50498">I
                          have a bunch of these pumps.  So many in fact
                          that I'm thinking of coughing up the $1,000
                          for the factory toolkit (probably a bearing
                          puller and two precision bore steel plates, if
                          that) to rebuild them. I think the bearings
                          alone go for $300, but it shouldn't be hard to
                          find a pump with bad bearings</div>
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_53761">for
                          ~$250.  The pumps have a very high foreline
                          pressure tolerance, 30 torr I think: I've seen
                          them backed with run-of-the-mill two stage
                          diaphragm pumps from Gast.  Meanwhile, high
                          performance four stage diaphragm pumps seem to
                          be fetching less than half of what I was
                          getting for <br clear="none">
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_65013">them
                          5 years ago, $150 might buy a working pump and
                          $200 more might effectively rebuild it. <br
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_59126">As
                          it turns out, I've already done some of the
                          heavy lifting. It's probably been close to ten
                          years now since I first wanted to make the
                          mini-sem portable, to bring to classrooms. To
                          that end I had custom pieces milled that
                          attach to the top and bottom vacuum ports, and
                          convert them to the KF standard. Short lengths
                          of stainless bellow also show up cheap enough
                          these days.</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_69228">Perhaps
                          as much as anything, it would highlight vacuum
                          technology as well as the SEM itself. <br
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_69234">I
                          might have almost everything we need on hand.
                          I can see lending the core components for
                          proof of <br clear="none">
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_88474">concept
                          , or until they can be found serendipitously
                          on ebay.. <br clear="none">
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_108768">For
                          all the little pieces and parts, $200-$300
                          might be a good guess and represent a good
                          working minimum budget for retrofitting the
                          valves and <br clear="none">
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_116695">piping. 

                          If we have to do it from scratch, the glovebox
                          could be another $150 or so but further down
                          the line. <br clear="none">
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                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_130752">I
                          say pitch it as far more user friendly and
                          less invasive, and see if we can get funds
                          allocated. </div>
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                          id="yiv5747781064yui_3_16_0_1_1418428069474_139661">Anyone

                          care any more? How are you guys coming along
                          with your SEMS, coaters, and turbos? <br
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                        <div dir="ltr">-Jeff</div>
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                                face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
                                    style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                                Chris Murphy <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b>
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                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:13 AM<br
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                                Re: [Sem] Picked up a sputter coater<br
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                              Well that's a breakthrough. Maybe Alan has
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                              > On Sep 1, 2014, at 22:41, John
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                              > ...3.5 hours of driving each way
                              later.  Hit me up if you need to coat
                              something.  I have a gold target for it<br
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