Wild Fermentation has a great recipe for ginger champagne, as well as ginger beer fermented with wild yeast.<div><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=qCMmXAp237cC&pg=PR10&lpg=PR10&dq=ginger+champagne+wild+fermentation&source=bl&ots=vAFWpaCatb&sig=wkG2Uc08_-so82KUIBF7U3ZlLAI&hl=en&ei=daLiTsX7AsSE2wXLutTDBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CFIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ginger%20champagne%20wild%20fermentation&f=false">http://books.google.com/books?id=qCMmXAp237cC&pg=PR10&lpg=PR10&dq=ginger+champagne+wild+fermentation&source=bl&ots=vAFWpaCatb&sig=wkG2Uc08_-so82KUIBF7U3ZlLAI&hl=en&ei=daLiTsX7AsSE2wXLutTDBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CFIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=ginger%20champagne%20wild%20fermentation&f=false</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Sandor also gives a method for starting the "ginger plant" you mentioned, which is really a wild yeast/bacteria cultivation...similar to kombucha.</div><div><br></div><div>definitely need to grate and boil the ginger if you want it to be spicy. The more the better! i also like making tinctures from spices...coriander and clove work really well for adding zest and bite. you can usually get ginger for $1-2 per pound at the heart of the city farmers market on Weds and Sunday's.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rainbow might have champagne yeast, other than that SF brewcraft.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>~md<br><br>On Friday, December 9, 2011, Felix Sargent wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span>Yeah, I've used basic yeast before, but only in sealed plastic bottles, which means at most a two day fermentation. It never really got that nice "spicyness" that I like in Ginger Beer like Reed's. Was wondering if the yeast would have anything to do with it. I probably under extracted the ginger in the plant (I didn't boil it). </span><div>
<br></div><div>Know any good places to get champagne yeast other than Brewcraft?</div><div>
</div>Felix Sargent<br><a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'felix.sargent@gmail.com');" target="_blank">felix.sargent@gmail.com</a><div><a href="http://www.felixsargent.com" target="_blank">www.felixsargent.com</a></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Matthew Downs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'downs.matt@gmail.com');" target="_blank">downs.matt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I've had success using basic dry brewers yeast. I suggest Safale 05 or Cote de blanc (a champagne yeast). These will both work with honey or sugar.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'algoldor@yahoo.com');" target="_blank">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span>Hi Felix,</span></div><div><span>I do not have it unfortunately. I've done various ginger based non alcoholic drinks using yogurt/yogurt whey/kefir/kefir whey/kombucha and water kefir. My best results were with kefir whey, honey and cold infusion of graded ginger during the whole fermentation. I'd be interested in the differences of the product if the "Ginger beer plant" is used. I also wonder how much is it reliable that this culture is the "true one" or the one which has been used for long period of time/historically. Do you have some info about the culture in general? I've heard about it before but I've never experimented with it and I'd like to give it a go. I love both ginger beer and ginger ale.<br>
</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Sincerely,<br></span></div><div><br><br>Frantisek<br><br>PS
I'm now in England and I'll be going for 28c3 in Berlin where several Noisebridge members are coming too. We may try to discuss how to get the ginger plant and from somewhere in England to USA.<br><br> <br></div>
<div>Frantisek Apfelbeck<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir</div><br><div><a href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org" target="_blank">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a><br>
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Friday, December 9, 2011 1:45 AM<div><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Noisebridge-discuss] Ginger Beer Plant<br> </div></font><div> <br>
<div>Hi Noisebridge, specifically BioBridge,<div><br></div><div>Does anyone have <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gingerbeerplant.net/" target="_blank">Ginger Beer Plant</a> or know where to source it in the area?</div><div>
<br></div><div>I'm looking to make some /real/ ginger beer. </div>
<div>If nobody has any, I'd be really happy to culture some for sharing.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Felix Sargent<br><a href="tel:%28415%29%20935-3354" value="+14159353354" target="_blank">(415) 935-3354</a><br>
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