[Noisebridge-board] Lease extension and new monthly rent

Tom Lowenthal flamsmark at gmail.com
Sun Nov 4 04:31:28 UTC 2012


Since one person (Krutcher) expressed skepticism about the renewal, I'm
leaning in favor of consensus. I have a letter, and I plan to get a panoply
of signatures on Tuesday, before sending emailing and mailing it out
promptly.

Mobile email, my apologies.
On Nov 3, 2012 7:16 PM, "Noisebridge Treasurer" <treasurer at noisebridge.net>
wrote:

> My impression was that the landlord needs a letter from us signifying our
> intention to renew, and that has a deadline. That and the excess rent
> payment do not, in my opinion, require consensus. Renewing our lease for
> another few years does.
>
> Tom, what's the letter status?
> On Nov 2, 2012 4:30 PM, "Danny O'Brien" <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm with Jake on this -- I don't think we actually need consensus to
>> continue what we're doing... I'm not sure if we'll cause excessive outrage
>> if we stop now though.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Liz Henry:
>>> > I can't be at the meeting this week but support extending the lease and
>>> > Tom's plan.
>>> >
>>>
>>> I generally agree, minus the consensus dance party.
>>>
>>> I'd argue that the consensus process would be required to move but not
>>> to stay on the course previously agreed upon. I don't really see any
>>> reason to require consensus on continue paying rent in the location
>>> we've already agreed on years ago. We agreed to the scheduled rent
>>> increase in the first place. It's in the contract we signed, after all...
>>>
>>> We originally discussed sunsets over consensus items generally and it
>>> was roundly rejected, repeatedly. We shouldn't accidentally introduce
>>> such a sunset like clause due to an external party sending us email.
>>>
>>> In any case thanks to Kelly (and everyone else) for sending the rent
>>> check and talking to Henry! Yay!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Jake
>>>
>>> > - Liz
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 10/30/12 3:05 PM, Snail wrote:
>>> >> I'll be therrrre.
>>> >>
>>> >> I love that they say they find us both "handy" and "helpful".
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
>>> >> <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> I will be there on tuesday night!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 10/28/2012 11:04 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I won't be able to attend any meetings, as I'm getting ready to
>>> leave town
>>> >>>> for two months of talks and workshops on the road, but I am totally
>>> in favor
>>> >>>> of extending the lease at our present location of 2169 Mission St,
>>> 3rd
>>> >>>> floor, at $3,960 per month.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I concur with Tom's plan.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mitch.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> From: me at tomlowenthal.com
>>> >>>>> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:38:54 -0700
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: FW: Lease extension and new monthly rent
>>> >>>>> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>>> >>>>> CC: board at lists.noisebridge.net; snailtsunami at gmail.com;
>>> >>>>> secretary at noisebridge.net; treasurer at noisebridge.net
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [+secretary +treasurer]
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I suggest we proceed as follows:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 1. Pay the increased October rent forthwith.
>>> >>>>> 2. Email Henry back saying that we need to to the two week
>>> consensus
>>> >>>>> dance, but we're really confident that we want to extend our lease.
>>> >>>>> 3. Get the signed letter ready to go in the next ten days.
>>> >>>>> 4. Bring up the renewal at this week's meeting, and confirm next
>>> week.
>>> >>>>> 5. Send the letter by email Tuesday night, and by snail mail
>>> Wednesday
>>> >>>>> morning.
>>> >>>>> 6. [Optional] Ammend the list of contact emails Henry has for this
>>> >>>>> sort of thing.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> If possible, could as many "key members of Noisebridge" as possible
>>> >>>>> either attend one of the next two weeks' meetings or arrange
>>> another
>>> >>>>> times to meet with me, in order to sign a paper letter document
>>> that I
>>> >>>>> can scan/email then snail mail to Henry next week.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Does Danny have the original copy of our lease?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> -Tom
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 27 October 2012 22:59, Mitch Altman<maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We need to renew our lease.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Mitch.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ________________________________
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:14:47 -0700
>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Lease extension and new monthly rent
>>> >>>>>>> From: henryhoproperty at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>> To: hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>> CC: adi at hexapodia.org; avniow at gmail.com; froggytoad at gmail.com;
>>> >>>>>>> shannon at scatter.com; maltman23 at hotmail.com;
>>> ieatlint at tehinterweb.com;
>>> >>>>>>> rachel at xtreme.com
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kelly,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> The initial time frame of our lease has expired. It began in
>>> September
>>> >>>>>>> 2009 and ended September 2012. We are currently in the
>>> option-to-renew
>>> >>>>>>> time frame of the lease where the rent is now increased to $3960
>>> per
>>> >>>>>>> month. The details of this can be found in section #32 of the
>>> lease.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Although the lease says the option expires if we haven't
>>> received a
>>> >>>>>>> written notice "not less than 30 days prior to the expiration of
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> initial Lease term", we've really enjoyed NoiseBridge's handy,
>>> helpful
>>> >>>>>>> tenancy and would enjoy your continued tenancy.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> If you would like to exercise your option to renew, please reply
>>> to
>>> >>>>>>> this email and send us a written notice with the signatures of
>>> key
>>> >>>>>>> members of NoiseBridge to:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 2896 Adeline Dr.
>>> >>>>>>> Burlingame, CA 94010
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> along with the difference in rent for the month of October 2012
>>> ($3960
>>> >>>>>>> - $3600 = $360).
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thanks!
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Henry Ho
>>> >>>>>>> 415-420-2189
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>
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