[Build] floor sanding test
Lamont Lucas
lamont at cluepon.com
Wed Aug 12 17:36:33 UTC 2009
Your plan is excellent and I appreciate the attention to detail. (along
with minimizing the damage a sanding n00b like myself can do) I'll
increase the size of the test patch to 5x20 as well.
I'll be at 2169 tonight a little before 6pm for the electrical buildout
discussion as well as to select, mark and photo a test patch. My plan
is still to start the work thursday or friday, depending mostly on
transportation (ie, will I borrow a zipcar, or is someone with a car
interested in helping, etc)
jim wrote:
> sounds like a good plan. i suggest picking a spot
> in the middle of the floor in the front (west) space.
> note that the floor in the front has some paint on
> part of it, maybe pick a 100 sq ft patch that has
> some painted and some bare wood.
> i specified using 36 grit for the first pass for
> the reason that we expect inexperienced people to be
> doing the work. if we use a heavier grit (e.g. 20),
> we have a greater risk of gouging. the purpose of
> the 36 grit (or whatever) is to remove the grimey top
> surface so that the subsequent fillers and coatings
> will adhere.
> the purpose of following up with 50 grit is to
> smooth down the peaks left by the 36 grit pass so
> that the fillers and subsequent coatings don't set
> up on the peaks that are later crushed by foot
> traffic.
> the current plan is to smear on fillers after the
> 50 grit pass. this should be done with broad knives
> with an eye to ensuring there are no peaks sticking
> up above the top surface of the wood. consider using
> bondo for deep or large holes. consider cutting wood
> plugs for very large holes.
> then, per current plan, put on a thinned down coat
> of shellac to fill the pores at a microscopic level.
> then sand with 80 grit to smooth down the surface
> of the shellac and filler.
> the put down two coats of a top coat that has
> flexibility regardless of hardness--flexibility for
> the reason that the top coat will be bridging a lot
> of miniature cracks.
>
> the floor store folks will probably balk at some
> of the above. i've chosen the above approach as a
> means of getting a sufficiently good job done in a
> minimum amount of time.
> i've detailed the above so you can compare with
> the advice of floor personages, who likely will give
> you standard advice to refinish a floor so it's
> pretty, without regard to time and cost constraints.
> i've put enough tho't into the above scheme that i
> hope you'll present whatever you discover for our
> mutual (build bunch) discussion, so we can think out
> a final, optimal proposal.
> the most valuable aspect of your self-sacrifice is
> getting some rough metric of time for sanding. i
> suggest maybe a 5 by 20 patch rather than 10 by 10,
> as that will better represent the way in which we'll
> be doing the work. note that edging (on one's knees
> with a large, rotary hand tool) will have to be done
> and the job of filling will be significant. seems to
> me the job of putting on coatings will be pretty fast
> and easy, relative to sanding and filling.
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 00:12 -0700, Lamont Lucas wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> At the meeting tonight I volunteered to sand a test patch of the floor,
>> with the idea of getting a better estimate of the amount of labor and
>> materials that would be needed to do the whole thing.
>>
>> As such, on thursday or friday, I plan on doing the following:
>>
>> 1) going to the new space, taking detailed photos of a 10'x10' spot of floor
>> 2) taking the photos to pacific flooring supply co to get their
>> recommendations for grit and process
>> 3) use the shopvac and maybe a giant magnet to clean all the crap I can
>> off of the test area
>> 4) use a punch to hammer down all the exposed nails below the surface of
>> the wood
>> 5) rent a floor sander and attempt to get the test patch to a clean and
>> consistent state
>>
>> I plan on taking detailed before and after photos, and estimating how
>> long it took me to do each phase.
>>
>> I'll try and pick an out of the way corner to work on.
>>
>> I suspect friday might be best for me, but I could also work on
>> thursday. I'm free most all daylight hours, and I'd like to have
>> something to report back before tuesday so we can settle the floor issue.
>>
>> If you have floor experience or would like to participate, please let me
>> know or arrange a time we can both be at the space. I hear Jim is the man.
>>
>>
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