[Build] electrical status

[jim]

   a tho't: let's use the old pipes and fittings as much as 
possible, especially in the prominently visible locations. 


On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 11:59 -0700, jim wrote:
> thanks for the note, neil. more or less your suggestions 
> seem right to me. main consideration is to respond to 
> priorities that the community resolves, should there be any. 
> 
>    maybe good to divide the overall job up into little tasks 
> that are unassigned, then each pick a task depending on what 
> we feel like, who's there to help, community wishes.... we 
> could make a list (e.g. run pipe from southwest sub-panel 
> along southwest wall, complete wiring within sub-panels 
> (note: i think the northwest, aka "front", sub-panel will 
> benefit from some sturdy posts that guide wires coming in 
> from the top pipes around the bus bars, also don't use the 
> top three positions...), re-group and switch workshop lights, 
> re-group and switch middle classroom lights..., and so on. 
> i might get around to making such a list and post it inside 
> the "electrical storage" room. 
> 
>    i believe scott will wire the toilet and shower room 
> interiors and present a pipe or box to the exterior wall 
> that we feed, likely from the "kitchen" sub-panel. 
> 
>    tracks will be used. will they remain in place is the big 
> question. 
>    note i hotted up only one side of each of the two of the 
> hotted up tracks, and i wired the one over the 
> workshop-classroom areas backward (i'll go to the octal box 
> and reverse the black and red connections so they conform to 
> the other tracks, i didn't understand the construction at 
> the time i hotted them up in a hurry). 
>    (that said, what's the point of presenting both red and 
> black to the track rails? maybe tie both hot rails to just 
> one circuit, i.e. bridge the two hot connections in the octal 
> box for the track. that spares people from reorienting the 
> connection in the track and also spares a circuit.) 
> 
>    moving the light fixtures will be a multi-person job: best 
> to remove the bulbs before dicking around with the fixtures 
> themselves. i hope to try pointing at least one set of them 
> up at the ceiling to see how indirect lighting works (also 
> might help protect people below in the event that a bulb 
> breaks). 
> 
>    i'm using black for receptacles and never for lights. red   <---!!! 
> feeds lights and appliances. where necessary, black can feed 
> appliances. 
>    main point: never put lights and receptacles on the same 
> circuits--if someone shorts a circuit (likeliest at a 
> receptacle), the lights remain on--safety consideration. 
> 
> more thanks, 
> jim 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 22:37 -0700, neil maclean wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> > I was at the 5MoF last night and got to see all the work you've been 
> > doing, it looked great. Thanks especially for painting the ceiling, I'm 
> > sure that was awful.southwest airline
> > 
> > Also glad to see you got a sub-panel in the front area.
> > 
> > My paid work will be spotty the next few weeks so I should be able to 
> > come in and get a few things wired up.
> > As you may know, the lighting wasn't perfect last night, so I couldn't 
> > see some things:
> > Are we still planning to use the track (trolly system) for the 
> > electronics work area, and also for the classrooms? Seems like a good 
> > idea to me, in addition to some outlets as you suggest.
> > 
> > Maybe we could divide up the areas and work on them with the teams that 
> > are building them out. If you stay on the classrooms and heavy shop, I 
> > could work on the kitchen and darkroom. (I think Scott is expecting to 
> > wire the bathroom?)
> > 
> > Neil
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > jim wrote:
> > >    it's more or less time to energize the "front" 
> > > sub-panel. 
> > >    let me know what day we expect the front panel to  <----!!! 
> > > be energized and i'll be sure to have connected up 
> > > the wires that must be connected so's not to have 
> > > fires and/or shocks. 
> > >
> > >    seems to me several big electrical issues remain: 
> > > * lights. what to do with these big, cumbersome 
> > > light fixtures? probably realign them in groups over 
> > > the "dirty workshop" and each of the two classrooms, 
> > > at least, and rewire lights so that each group is 
> > > controlled by its own switch. 
> > > * outlets. 
> > > -- determine where the electronic work will really be 
> > > and then run a branch or two to that area with 
> > > receptacles, to be expanded later. 
> > > -- determine where receptacles will be needed in the 
> > > "dirty workshop" and each of the two classrooms and 
> > > put in a few, to be expanded later. 
> > > -- front area. throw up a few receptacles here and 
> > > there. 
> > > -- toilet areas. take power from the new "kitchen" 
> > > sub-panel. 
> > > -- photo dark/light-at-the-top room. determine what 
> > > receptacles are needed and put in a few or energize 
> > > what's there. 
> > > -- "kitchen". to be determined. 
> > > -- dj booth. to be determined. 
> > > -- other locations for receptacles? 
> > >
> > >
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