[Build] state of construction (storage bins)

Mon Jul 5 21:07:03 UTC 2010

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:55 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
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>
>   my sense is that cleanup and organization would
> be easier with my rolling cart scheme. of course i
> have no actual data.
>

There's a stainless steel 3 shelf service cart at the space.  I was
using it to move the PA back and forth from the Turing Classroom
( https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/File:Noisebridge_map.png ), but it
would work well in the shop or other areas.

Polypro carts (like the ones at Harbor Freight
http://www.harborfreight.com/24-inch-x-36-inch-industrial-polypropylene-service-cart-92862.html
) are around $125 new.  I hope we could find them free or at a
significant savings once there's a place for them.

-rma

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> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 15:46 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>> Heh, Jim, I already knew what your opinion was!  Ben seemed undecided
>> last I heard which is why I asked him.
>>
>> Your idea here makes me worried from the POV of cleaning up.  Our record
>> with things like old burritos is not good and I'm reluctant to try a
>> plan that includes needing to roll things back to somewhere else.
>> Sawdust and such would probably get tracked around more as well.
>>
>> On the subject of bins for parts I am neutral.  If a decision is made
>> I'll happily chip in $$$ to buy some.
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>> jim wrote:
>> >    (not that you asked...) my opinion is let's do
>> > it, and let's do it with some advance planning.
>> >
>> >    i like the idea of being able to expand and
>> > contract a work area so's to allow more work
>> > areas. as patton is reputed to have said, fixed
>> > fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of
>> > <i forget just who, but i took the point>.
>> >    what about a couple of rolling carts on which
>> > to put power tools and a couple more rolling
>> > carts on which to hammer, bang, and crash?
>> >    use case: roll a cart to where a power tool
>> > is stored and slide the power tool off its
>> > shelf onto the cart (same level), grab another
>> > cart on which to work, roll by the consumables,
>> > do yo' thing, then put things back.
>> >    buy the idea and our shop has a wall where
>> > tools are, another wall where empty rolling
>> > racks are, consumables are probably on the
>> > walls above the cart surfaces...; users grab a
>> > cart for a tool and a cart for the work and
>> > roll off to the dirty-making spot....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 14:06 -0700, Rachel McConnell wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've talked to a number of people about moving the shop and have
>> >> gotten responses ranging from 'yes!' to 'enh'. Nobody seemed against
>> >> it as long as they didn't have to do the work. I'm willing to do the
>> >> work on it -- well I can't do it all myself obviously but I'll do what
>> >> I can.
>> >>
>> >> Ben what is your opinion after a few days of letting it sit?
>> >>
>> >> -Rachel
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 4, 2010, at 9:06, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>   i agree that bin boxes are probably better
>> >>> than the little drawers, though a mix might be
>> >>> right.
>> >>>   something easy, cheap, and pretty effective
>> >>> is a shallow shelf on which are boxes and
>> >>> jars of screws, nails....
>> >>>   "shallow" might mean not very high and the
>> >>> shelf pulls out or it might mean not very
>> >>> deep and not very high, in which case the
>> >>> shelf does not pull out.
>> >>>
>> >>>   where in the matfablab is a good place for
>> >>> screws, nails...?
>> >>>
>> >>>   and how are we doing with the idea of
>> >>> moving the matfablab east? might be good to
>> >>> defer a lot of stuff until after that's
>> >>> resolved: i.e. let's resolve it. i'm mildly
>> >>> for it--michael kan's note about air flow is
>> >>> something of a convincer to me, reinforced
>> >>> by the observation that shop tool noise at
>> >>> the east end might help make the west end
>> >>> more quiet.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 08:55 -0700, Ben Kochie wrote:
>> >>>> I think the Bin-Box systems are probably better for the shop.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#4666t84/=7td89e
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -ben
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  "UNIX is user-friendly, it's just picky about its friends."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, John Magolske wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> * Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> [100703 19:32]:
>> >>>>>> Do you prefer bins like the ones that are there, or fishing
>> >>>>>> organizer
>> >>>>>> style boxes with compartments?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Personally if we could get screws and such into an organizer
>> >>>>>> setup with
>> >>>>>> smaller bins it would be good.  I prefer the fishing/sewing
>> >>>>>> organizers
>> >>>>>> that have compartments on two sides and flip open.  If anyone
>> >>>>>> knows a
>> >>>>>> good place to pick that kind of thing up I could go shopping for
>> >>>>>> them.
>> >>>>> The part bin cabinets listed below are what I'd suggest. They
>> >>>>> all have the same external dimensions, but with different drawer
>> >>>>> configurations. Personally, I find the 24 large-drawer and the 64
>> >>>>> small-drawer versions are most useful. I have the combo 44-drawer
>> >>>>> version on my desk at work, but mostly use the larger drawers and
>> >>>>> wish
>> >>>>> I got the 24-drawer version instead. These would be nice attached to
>> >>>>> the wall (don't stick out too far). I like the idea of settling on
>> >>>>> one particular form factor so they can be tiled across a wall in a
>> >>>>> modular, space-efficient, non-chaotic manner... and these seem to
>> >>>>> have a reasonable cost/benefit ratio IMO.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> From McMaster:
>> >>>>> 9619T71
>> >>>>> Plastic c 24 Drawers,
>> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>> >>>>> 24 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
>> >>>>> In stock at $29.64 Each
>> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t71/=3uhja8
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 9619T75
>> >>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 44 Drawers,
>> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>> >>>>> 32 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
>> >>>>> 12 Drawers @ 4 3/8" x 2" x 5 1/4"
>> >>>>> In stock at $28.09 Each
>> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t75/=3uhjh3
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 9619T77
>> >>>>> Plastic Small-Parts Drawer Cabinet 64 Drawers,
>> >>>>> 20" W X 15-13/16" H X 6-3/8" D, Lt Gray
>> >>>>> 64 Drawers @ 2 1/8" x 1 1/2" x 5 1/4"
>> >>>>> In stock at $31.19 Each
>> >>>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#9619t77/=3uhhxi
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If anyone's up for it I'd be willing to go halves/thirds/fourths/
>> >>>>> etc.
>> >>>>> on getting 2/3/4/etc of these. Maybe two 24's & one 64 to start
>> >>>>> with?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> When ordering from McMaster, an order placed by 5pm typically
>> >>>>> arrives
>> >>>>> by next business day afternoon (works better if you communicate that
>> >>>>> we're a bus/org, personal orders can take 2 days). I guess Weds
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> be the earliest we could get these if we so chose...and we'd need a
>> >>>>> reliable receiving person & address.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The page Jim linked looks interesting too. Stackable larger bins
>> >>>>> would
>> >>>>> be nice. The nesting bins we currently have (donated by dpc, thx)
>> >>>>> could be a part of the solution...one thought was to mount to a wall
>> >>>>> some sort of rail that hooks into the top rear grooves of these bins
>> >>>>> and a ledge/shelf to support the bottoms.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> John
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> John Magolske
>> >>>>> http://B79.net/contact
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