[Build] Fwd: inspection warning?

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Fri Jun 27 18:25:12 UTC 2014


Maybe Robert Noel is this person?
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2014-April/043567.html

Either way, excellent report. Thanks!


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 11:16 AM, daravinne <daravinne at gmail.com> wrote:

> correct me if i'm wrong but the name of the current building owner should
> be a matter of public record, no? i am looking now but maybe someone can
> find it faster than me
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 to "remove the kitchen."
>>
>> Although there was no permit obtained, the walls were (originally) built
>> to code and should pass inspection; it might not be a terrible idea to have
>> someone with knowledge of the inspection process have a look. "Originally"
>> in this case means "before there were windows put into various walls."
>>
>> I know I've been out of the loop, but has the building been sold? Robert
>> Noel is not the name of the owners we rented from originally. If the
>> building has been sold and this inspection thing is phase one of a plan to
>> get us to move out so he can put condos or offices or something in, it
>> might suggest a different course of action.
>>
>> --S
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Ben Kochie <ben at nerp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yay! Remove the kitchen!
>>>
>>>
>>> On June 27, 2014 10:34:04 AM CEST, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This answers a LOT of questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: *Tim Pearson* <tim at electriccitysf.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2014
>>>> Subject: inspection warning?
>>>> To: Naomi Most <naomi at nthmost.com>
>>>> Cc: Neil Maclean <neil at warmcove.com>, Mitch Altman <
>>>> maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Naomi,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a follow up on my conversation with two SF inspectors today, an
>>>> electrical & building inspector:
>>>>
>>>> 1. First, to allay any remaining concerns, the electrical inspector is
>>>> on-board with our plan and will not be making any more surprise visits.  I
>>>> filled him in on the electrical prep-work we intend to do and I told him I
>>>> will file the electrical permit this coming Monday, with the intention to
>>>> schedule the survey inspection for July 8th. He said that this approach is
>>>> fine with him and he doesn't anticipate any big new problems, based on his
>>>> original visit.
>>>>
>>>> 2. FYI, I'm told that the complaint was filed by Robert Noel (who
>>>> appears to be the building owner...or that's what the electrical insptr
>>>> said: is this correct??)
>>>>
>>>> 3. I also spoke with a building department inspector who was initially
>>>> ONLY *concerned about people living in the space*, since it is zoned
>>>> for office/workspace, not housing.  Specifically, you cannot have a "full
>>>> kitchen", only an "employee break room".  So the oven has to be removed
>>>> along with any cooktop or range.  (A hotplate for boiling water is OK.)
>>>> Also, there cannot be any bathing facilities (tub or shower).  He wants to
>>>> visit to verify that nobody is living in the space, but (so far) he will
>>>> not require that we file a building permit.  I say, so far bc...
>>>>
>>>> 4. Later in the call, the building inspector also mentioned that any
>>>> building code violations would need to be corrected, in particular, *any
>>>> walls that were constructed without a permit must be legalized (ie, pass
>>>> inspection...) or be removed.*  I believe there are several walls in
>>>> this category (though I didn't mention that to him).  He may 'look the
>>>> other way,' during a visit, since the complaint is focused on peeps living
>>>> in the space... or he may red-tag the un-permitted walls and require
>>>> legalization.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, we are not General Contractors, so we wouldn't be the right
>>>> advisors for you about how best to meet the requirements of the building
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> We can recommend a GC who will have good ideas about how best to
>>>> approach this part of the complaint.  If you like, we can ask him to stop
>>>> by next week and share his thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, I can look up the building permit history and let you
>>>> know what work HAS been permitted and inspected in the last 20 years or
>>>> so.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, Neil and I will be in tomorrow morning if anyone wants to chat, or
>>>> just give a call anytime.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Naomi Most <naomi at nthmost.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We were apparently surprise-visited on Monday, I was just informed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the link:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dbiweb.sfgov.org/dbipts/Default2.aspx?page=AddressComplaint&ComplaintNo=201465341
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you want me to call the city, or are you guys handling this?  I
>>>>> thought you were going to schedule a walk-through inspection for early
>>>>> July... but I don't know if that causes the city to "call off the
>>>>> dogs" so to speak or whether their processes are a little disjointed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have I misunderstood what's expected from Noisebridge in terms of
>>>>> interacting with the city?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Naomi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Naomi Theora Most
>>>>> naomi at nthmost.com
>>>>> +1-415-728-7490
>>>>>
>>>>> skype: nthmost
>>>>>
>>>>> http://twitter.com/nthmost
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Shannon Lee
>> (503) 539-3700
>>
>> "Any sufficiently slow descent into barbarism is indistinguishable from
>> normalcy."
>>
>>                   -- @mediapathic
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