[Cyborg] rat brain robots

Adam Skory askory at gmail.com
Fri Oct 8 22:10:19 UTC 2010

There wasn't anyone obvious recording it and I can't find anything, sorry!

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Eric Boyd <mrericboyd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Todd,
> Thanks for the paper.  I too am pretty skeptical, although I do think
> they are doing the right thing by having the electrodes there for the
> neurons right from the beginning.  Maybe they provide enough "structure"
> that the neurons can figure something out?
> They do say in one of the publicly accessible first pages that the hard
> problem is getting the neural net to share your goals, i.e. say you want
> it to avoid obstacles, how do you train for that?!?
> Skory - do you know if there is any audio or video available from the
> talk that you say at CMU?  I'd love to listen to that!
> Eric
> On 10/8/10 12:26 AM, Todd Anderson wrote:
>> The only paper I can retrieve in full is the ethics article (see
>> attached).  I haven't read the paper yet - so please forgive the Donny
>> Doubting - but I do wonder about cultured neuron experiments in general:
>> can we expect neurons thrown together without a developmental wiring
>> process (which, for example, would usually lead to 3D connection maps)
>> to produce a great amount of computational power?  I am quite sure they
>> make excellent artwork, as in Stephen Potters work with Symbiotica (at
>> the University of Western Australia)!
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Eric Boyd <mrericboyd at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:mrericboyd at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>     http://singularityhub.com/2010/10/06/videos-of-robot-controlled-by-rat-brain-amazing-technology-still-moving-forward/
>>     Kevin Warwick has been busy!  Apparently they have been culturing rat
>>     neurons, wiring them up to robots using electrode arrays and bluetooth,
>>     and figuring out how to train the "rat brain" to drive the robot around!
>>       Videos show progress as being pretty good!
>>     The article links three academic papers they have written, but of course
>>     the full text is behind paywalls.  Anyone have access to those journals?
>>     Amazingly, Warwick's homepage (kevinwarwick.com
>>     <http://kevinwarwick.com>) doesn't mention this
>>     research at all, especially since there are articles from the BBC about
>>     this from 2 years ago.
>>     I also found some research by Steve Potter of GATech in 2002, although
>>     he seems to be focussed on the neural culturing and electrode
>>     technologies, rather than the cyborg aspects.
>>     http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/13047/?a=f
>>     http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/groups/potter/animat.html
>>     Eric
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