[Cyborg] muscle-zapper forces gamers own hands against them

[Alan Majer]

That is really awesome. 
Perhaps fine control isn't needed in order to have it work well. Precisely because your brain says "my arm is not under my control" is what would lead to the conclusion that it is being subjected to resistance or outside force... your brain just fills in the missing quantity of resistance between what it expected and what happened.
Alan

> From: noisebridge at saizai.com
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 01:57:01 -0800
> To: mrericboyd at yahoo.com
> CC: discussion at hacklab.to; cyborg at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Cyborg] muscle-zapper forces gamers own hands against them
> 
> I would love to see this.
> 
> Another curiosity: to be force feedback, not override, you'd have to
> have very fine control indeed. It's too easy to just prevent someone
> from moving intentionally; I imagine that it's actually quite hard to
> get the stimulation such that it feels like "resistance" rather than
> "my arm is not under my control".
> 
> - Sai
> 
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Eric Boyd <mrericboyd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729025.800-musclezapper-forces-gamers-own-hands-against-them.html
> >
> > I'd love to try this thing, it looks like it induces a lot of smiling :-)
> >
> > To be useful though I think you'd want to instrument both arms, and have
> > very fine control over the level of stimulation.  I wonder how precisely the
> > electrodes have to be placed on the arm?  They look like traditional TENS
> > electrodes.
> >
> > The project page:
> > http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/baudisch/projects/muscle-propelled-force-feedback.html
> >
> > mentions a publication in the Proceedings of CHI 2013, but I don't think
> > it's even out yet.  Can anyone confirm and/or get it?
> >
> > Eric
> >
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