[Darkroom] Sink table

Wed Aug 4 22:15:16 UTC 2010

Sean, et. al,
With some adjustments I could put a sink anywhere you want along that
wall corner.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Lilia Markham <liliakai at gmail.com> wrote:
> I support this plan. Including the meeting next week. I have no fear of
> cabinet doors below the sink/counter though. Since one will typically have
> to stand in front of it to work, it must necessarily be nearly clear enough
> to open doors below. Then again, no reason to have them if their not needed.
>
> Also, is it too late to be looking at larger made-for-darkroom sinks on
> craigslist?
> huge one, $35 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/art/1876632673.html
>

That darkroom sink looks really good, get it!

Do you want me to pick it up?

>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, the original plan would make all of the current shelves
>>> unnecessary. Given how small the space is, I think that built in
>>> storage will always be more efficient than furniture. I think it's
>>> still worth planning to build shelves.
>>
>> That's a good point (Ben & Kelly!) - and it will probably give us a lot
>> more counter surface area as a result. I'll plan on the tall shelving unit
>> vanishing and having it replaced by wall hanging/floating shelves.
>>
>>>
>>> So, one question though, Sean, is there a particular reason that you
>>> don't mention using the cabinet that the sink is currently resting in?
>>> I thought it seemed fine. Just needs a countertop. And then we could
>>> make an adjacent table/counter with storage underneath.
>>
>> I'm not against using the cabinet that is there - I was just thinking from
>> a building perspective it would be a little harder since any other tables
>> would need to be at the same height/level so you don't dump stuff all over
>> the place in the dark. If it was a single piece countertop, this problem
>> would go away. Also, I kind of thought the doors on the cabinet would be a
>> liability for storage (the space would need to be clean enough to allow the
>> doors to open). However, if the underside of the table was just open, and
>> items were stacked there on shelving, it would be much easier to access even
>> though it wouldn't be as pretty. Although we could just rip the doors off
>> the cabinet, its kind of a waste of doors IMO, especially if that cabinet
>> can be used in its current form elsewhere in the space (I think Miloh was
>> eyeing it for the kitchen if we didn't need it).
>>
>>>
>>> If we actually have the manpower and resources to go ahead with this,
>>> it might be worth having a small work meeting. I'm around.
>>
>> This sounds like a good idea. How's Tuesday the 10th sound after the NB
>> member meeting? I think it just needs to be a 30 minute diggity to get some
>> ideas out there for anyone that is interested. Sound OK?
>>
>>>
>>> -Kelly
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 07:13, Ben Rupert <meowdip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hey Sean, as for the epoxy benchtop I was hoping to get, that never
>>> > went
>>> > anywhere.  I think at one point the plan was to have a bench top with
>>> > the sink in it which ran the length of the room (so those tall shelves
>>> > wouldn't fit anymore), and to put in as much storage underneath as
>>> > possible plus some wall mounted shelves if needed.  I'm not sure if
>>> > that's still what most people want and I'm not strongly attached to
>>> > that
>>> > design myself, although it would be nice.
>>> >
>>> > Ben
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sean Cusack wrote:
>>> >> Hey peeps -
>>> >>
>>> >> So, I'm thinking we needz a table to put the sink into. Thanks Lilia
>>> >> for
>>> >> giving us a collective kick off our collective fat asses. I took a
>>> >> bunch
>>> >> of measurements while I was at the space today and it looks like the
>>> >> absolute max depth we can have for a table is 26" (the sink is 22"),
>>> >> and
>>> >> the absolute max width is 8.5 feet (the width of the room). The max
>>> >> depth is driven by the idea that we want to keep the big 4 tiered
>>> >> shelf
>>> >> that is on the back wall in the room since its nice for adding some
>>> >> semblance of organization to the otherwise carpet bombed dark room.
>>> >>
>>> >> There *is* a table in the NB space in need of some refurbishment
>>> >> anyways
>>> >> that is 6 feet long and 24" deep. I'm thinking we could take this
>>> >> table,
>>> >> refurbish it, add a polypropylene top to make it chemical proof (for
>>> >> what we'll be using), and cut a hole in it for the sink. If anyone
>>> >> really whines that the table has gone missing, I'd be happy to make
>>> >> another one to replace it for the space (although I think we have
>>> >> plenty
>>> >> of tables to go around for the moment).
>>> >>
>>> >> What I'd really like to know from you guys is: is 24"/6 feet long
>>> >> enough? Realize that we'll lose ~3 feet to sink, so we'll effectively
>>> >> have only ~3 feet of space for other developing stuff. Is this enough?
>>> >> Also realize that even if we gained more space by building our own 8.5
>>> >> foot table, the extra 2.5 feet would be on the other side of the sink.
>>> >>
>>> >> FWIW, I'm kind of partial to leaving the other 2.5 feet open for now
>>> >> and
>>> >> leaving it as room for future expansion (shelving/fridge/etc.), but
>>> >> I'm
>>> >> not a film developer (yet!)
>>> >>
>>> >> Sean
>>> >>
>>> >>
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