[Darkroom] Sink table

Wed Aug 4 22:33:36 UTC 2010

Can I get a hellz yeah?

I'll pledge the $35 for that sink. I would go get it myself too, but I'd
have to take Bart and maybe a bus or bike. Probably gonna be easier for
someone with a car. Is that you Miloh? I haven't called the number in the ad
yet... figured whoever's going to get it should be on the line to negotiate
pick up time.

-Lilia

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:15 PM, miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sean, et. al,
> With some adjustments I could put a sink anywhere you want along that
> wall corner.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Lilia Markham <liliakai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I support this plan. Including the meeting next week. I have no fear of
> > cabinet doors below the sink/counter though. Since one will typically
> have
> > to stand in front of it to work, it must necessarily be nearly clear
> enough
> > to open doors below. Then again, no reason to have them if their not
> needed.
> >
> > Also, is it too late to be looking at larger made-for-darkroom sinks on
> > craigslist?
> > huge one, $35 - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/art/1876632673.html
> >
>
>
> That darkroom sink looks really good, get it!
>
> Do you want me to pick it up?
>
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, the original plan would make all of the current shelves
> >>> unnecessary. Given how small the space is, I think that built in
> >>> storage will always be more efficient than furniture. I think it's
> >>> still worth planning to build shelves.
> >>
> >> That's a good point (Ben & Kelly!) - and it will probably give us a lot
> >> more counter surface area as a result. I'll plan on the tall shelving
> unit
> >> vanishing and having it replaced by wall hanging/floating shelves.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So, one question though, Sean, is there a particular reason that you
> >>> don't mention using the cabinet that the sink is currently resting in?
> >>> I thought it seemed fine. Just needs a countertop. And then we could
> >>> make an adjacent table/counter with storage underneath.
> >>
> >> I'm not against using the cabinet that is there - I was just thinking
> from
> >> a building perspective it would be a little harder since any other
> tables
> >> would need to be at the same height/level so you don't dump stuff all
> over
> >> the place in the dark. If it was a single piece countertop, this problem
> >> would go away. Also, I kind of thought the doors on the cabinet would be
> a
> >> liability for storage (the space would need to be clean enough to allow
> the
> >> doors to open). However, if the underside of the table was just open,
> and
> >> items were stacked there on shelving, it would be much easier to access
> even
> >> though it wouldn't be as pretty. Although we could just rip the doors
> off
> >> the cabinet, its kind of a waste of doors IMO, especially if that
> cabinet
> >> can be used in its current form elsewhere in the space (I think Miloh
> was
> >> eyeing it for the kitchen if we didn't need it).
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If we actually have the manpower and resources to go ahead with this,
> >>> it might be worth having a small work meeting. I'm around.
> >>
> >> This sounds like a good idea. How's Tuesday the 10th sound after the NB
> >> member meeting? I think it just needs to be a 30 minute diggity to get
> some
> >> ideas out there for anyone that is interested. Sound OK?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -Kelly
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 07:13, Ben Rupert <meowdip at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hey Sean, as for the epoxy benchtop I was hoping to get, that never
> >>> > went
> >>> > anywhere.  I think at one point the plan was to have a bench top with
> >>> > the sink in it which ran the length of the room (so those tall
> shelves
> >>> > wouldn't fit anymore), and to put in as much storage underneath as
> >>> > possible plus some wall mounted shelves if needed.  I'm not sure if
> >>> > that's still what most people want and I'm not strongly attached to
> >>> > that
> >>> > design myself, although it would be nice.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ben
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Sean Cusack wrote:
> >>> >> Hey peeps -
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So, I'm thinking we needz a table to put the sink into. Thanks Lilia
> >>> >> for
> >>> >> giving us a collective kick off our collective fat asses. I took a
> >>> >> bunch
> >>> >> of measurements while I was at the space today and it looks like the
> >>> >> absolute max depth we can have for a table is 26" (the sink is 22"),
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> the absolute max width is 8.5 feet (the width of the room). The max
> >>> >> depth is driven by the idea that we want to keep the big 4 tiered
> >>> >> shelf
> >>> >> that is on the back wall in the room since its nice for adding some
> >>> >> semblance of organization to the otherwise carpet bombed dark room.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There *is* a table in the NB space in need of some refurbishment
> >>> >> anyways
> >>> >> that is 6 feet long and 24" deep. I'm thinking we could take this
> >>> >> table,
> >>> >> refurbish it, add a polypropylene top to make it chemical proof (for
> >>> >> what we'll be using), and cut a hole in it for the sink. If anyone
> >>> >> really whines that the table has gone missing, I'd be happy to make
> >>> >> another one to replace it for the space (although I think we have
> >>> >> plenty
> >>> >> of tables to go around for the moment).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What I'd really like to know from you guys is: is 24"/6 feet long
> >>> >> enough? Realize that we'll lose ~3 feet to sink, so we'll
> effectively
> >>> >> have only ~3 feet of space for other developing stuff. Is this
> enough?
> >>> >> Also realize that even if we gained more space by building our own
> 8.5
> >>> >> foot table, the extra 2.5 feet would be on the other side of the
> sink.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> FWIW, I'm kind of partial to leaving the other 2.5 feet open for now
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> leaving it as room for future expansion (shelving/fridge/etc.), but
> >>> >> I'm
> >>> >> not a film developer (yet!)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sean
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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