[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

Christopher Whipple crwbot at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 01:00:04 UTC 2013


I'm unavailable Wednesday evenings and this coming Monday evening, the
15th. Other than that, my schedule is fairly flexible given some fair
warning.

-c


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any date after that would
> work for me.
>
> John
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Jude et al.,
>>
>> I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from whatever latest plague is
>> going around, and ready to meet.  However, we have two core group members
>> currently out of town, both of whom should be back by the end of the month,
>> if not sooner (hopefully sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town for a spell
>> sometime in late July/early August.  That said:
>>
>> 1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return dates and earliest
>> possible days you'd be available to travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>>
>> 2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>>
>> 3.  Chris Whipple: when would your car be available for such a trip?
>>
>> Awaiting your replies,
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would be up for travelling to
>>> Richmond to meet and help set things up, on whatever date works for
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>>>>
>>>> I'm still out of state, but finally at a computer fit for writing
>>>> emails which my limited patience for dinky touchscreens will not permit.
>>>>
>>>> Those software tweaks sound like an excellent fit for our purposes, and
>>>> perhaps kit scanners worldwide, as internet connectivity is not necessarily
>>>> a guarantee in all scanning circumstances.  It's also nice to know that one
>>>> or more components of the archive.org hardware/software suite are
>>>> retoolable at all.  Can that be taken to mean that these things are
>>>> entirely open source?  If so, is there publicly available documentation
>>>> detailing this equipment and the software behind it?  One of the end goals
>>>> of Noisebridge's book scanning endeavors is, loosely put, to develop
>>>> hardware, software and operation standards to which all other hackerspaces
>>>> and their scanners can adhere.  From conversations so far with both Daniel
>>>> and IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>>>>
>>>> I can't personally make a trip to Richmond until at least a few days
>>>> after I get back (20th), as I'll be moving my life out of one San Francisco
>>>> hobble and into another.  We do have several folks in our ranks who have
>>>> expressed a willingness to travel, whether to the Archive, Ace Monster
>>>> Toys, etc.  I'll leave it to them to speak up if that's a trip one or more
>>>> are willing/able to make.  Purely out of self interest, I propose that
>>>> meeting take place closer to the end of this month or the beginning of
>>>> next, so as to remain as personally involved as possible.
>>>>
>>>> We haven't settled on a Powershot model as of yet.  That search was
>>>> ongoing until news came of being loaned Canon DSLRs from the Books dept. at
>>>> IA. I assume our "beta testing" will benefit from the use of more than one
>>>> camera model.  Seems like we ought to seek out Powershots just to have on
>>>> hand.  Do you, Jude, or other Books people have any insights into the
>>>> merits of one model or another?  I've done my own exploring/conversating in
>>>> this DIYBookScanner thread<http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>but there does not seem to be a consensus on a single gold standard so far.
>>>>
>>>> With all the developments as of late, we (the Noisebridge Digital
>>>> Archivists group) are definitely due for another general meeting.  That
>>>> will likely be the first order of business upon my return to SF, post-move.
>>>>  I'll send out another dispatch once the date's been set.  I extend to you,
>>>> Jude, the same invitation I have to Daniel, which is to Skype into that
>>>> meeting and/or simply subscribe to the DA mailing list<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>>>> you'd like to stay extra-current with our goings on.
>>>>
>>>> With great anticipation,
>>>>
>>>> -Danny N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Danny,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to give you an update on where things stand. I ordered a PC
>>>>> (the same model we use on our scribes) and it should be here before the end
>>>>> of the week. I plan to put our software on there and then set a few
>>>>> switches in the software that are designed to allow our scribes to function
>>>>> in the event of a network outage. This will allow the software to work
>>>>> without a connection to archive.org's database. I don't believe that
>>>>> should take more than a day, so I think, if it's good for you, we can
>>>>> probably meet up some time later next week or early the following week and
>>>>> so I can give you the PC, the cameras, and some training in using our
>>>>> software. I'm also excited to check out the scanner.
>>>>>
>>>>> After that, I think you're definitely going to want to make some
>>>>> modifications to the software, and I'd be glad to help or advise with that
>>>>> in any way I can. We can discuss it in more detail, but to briefly
>>>>> summarize our process, our software is designed to produce a tarball of
>>>>> images along with an xml file containing metadata about cropping,
>>>>> deskewing, and rotation of the images (and some structural metadata about
>>>>> page numbers and page types optionally captured during image capture). This
>>>>> metadata is used on our servers, once a book is uploaded, to perform those
>>>>> actions on the raw images, producing the final formats that you see on
>>>>> archive.org. While you're of course welcome to upload anything you
>>>>> scan to archive.org, wait for it to process, and then download it, I
>>>>> assume you'd also like to be able to produce finished scans independent of
>>>>> our servers (and we would like to see that happen as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be able to meet at our Physical Archive in Richmond? That's
>>>>> where the cameras are, and also where my colleague Sean is based. He will
>>>>> have some ideas for mounting the cameras.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also very interested in seeing how the software works with the
>>>>> Canon Powershots you guys have. Do you have the model number of those, by
>>>>> the way? I would like to look at the specs online.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll email you again as soon as the PC arrives so we can set a date.
>>>>> Are you still out of town? If so, is there someone else I should email
>>>>> about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to working together.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jude
>>>>>
>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Danny,
>>>>>
>>>>> After you left on Friday, I heard back on an email I had sent to
>>>>> Daniel Reetz a week earlier, and he suggested we contact Noisebridge and
>>>>> look into working together since you had one of the kits. Synchronicity!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me see what Robert has to say about the time frame and I'll get
>>>>> back to you asap. His email is CCed here btw.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/13 6:17 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jude,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I write you now from Noisebridge, just beneath the shelf currently
>>>>> home to the mostly-assembled Reetz kit scanner.  An update has gone out to
>>>>> the Digital Archivists mailing list (
>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists) with a recap of
>>>>> our attendance today at IA and the accompanying discussions with yourself,
>>>>> Robert and Jason Scott.  Though I will almost certainly be out of town for
>>>>> the occasion, we'd like to put together a time when the kit can be brought
>>>>> to IA and outfitted with the necessary equipment and/or software to begin
>>>>> the "beta testing" we discussed this afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>>> personally participate in that meeting would be if it took place this
>>>>> coming Tuesday, which I realize may be too short of notice.  Either way,
>>>>> get back to me when you can with what works for you and we'll plan
>>>>> accordingly.  And of course, thank you, again, for your advice, generosity,
>>>>> and interest in our project and its progress.  We look forward to working
>>>>> with you.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Very Best.
>>>>>
>>>>>  -Danny N.
>>>>>
>>>>>  PS:  Please forward this onto Robert as well (I don't have his email
>>>>> address).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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