[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

newmy51 at gmail.com newmy51 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 23 21:06:48 UTC 2013


Jude,

Haven't heard back from you yet.  Are we on for tomorrow, or should we
reschedule for when Robert's back in town?

-Danny


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:

> DA List et al.,
>
> I propose we plan for the late morning/early afternoon of Wednesday the
> 24th or anytime shortly thereafter.  That way, John will be back in town to
> participate.
>
> Reply to confirm.
>
> -Danny
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Christopher Whipple <crwbot at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm unavailable Wednesday evenings and this coming Monday evening, the
>> 15th. Other than that, my schedule is fairly flexible given some fair
>> warning.
>>
>> -c
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any date after that would
>>> work for me.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jude et al.,
>>>>
>>>> I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from whatever latest plague
>>>> is going around, and ready to meet.  However, we have two core group
>>>> members currently out of town, both of whom should be back by the end of
>>>> the month, if not sooner (hopefully sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town
>>>> for a spell sometime in late July/early August.  That said:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return dates and earliest
>>>> possible days you'd be available to travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Chris Whipple: when would your car be available for such a trip?
>>>>
>>>> Awaiting your replies,
>>>>
>>>> -Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would be up for travelling to
>>>>> Richmond to meet and help set things up, on whatever date works for
>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still out of state, but finally at a computer fit for writing
>>>>>> emails which my limited patience for dinky touchscreens will not permit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those software tweaks sound like an excellent fit for our purposes,
>>>>>> and perhaps kit scanners worldwide, as internet connectivity is not
>>>>>> necessarily a guarantee in all scanning circumstances.  It's also nice to
>>>>>> know that one or more components of the archive.orghardware/software suite are retoolable at all.  Can that be taken to mean
>>>>>> that these things are entirely open source?  If so, is there publicly
>>>>>> available documentation detailing this equipment and the software behind
>>>>>> it?  One of the end goals of Noisebridge's book scanning endeavors is,
>>>>>> loosely put, to develop hardware, software and operation standards to which
>>>>>> all other hackerspaces and their scanners can adhere.  From conversations
>>>>>> so far with both Daniel and IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't personally make a trip to Richmond until at least a few days
>>>>>> after I get back (20th), as I'll be moving my life out of one San Francisco
>>>>>> hobble and into another.  We do have several folks in our ranks who have
>>>>>> expressed a willingness to travel, whether to the Archive, Ace Monster
>>>>>> Toys, etc.  I'll leave it to them to speak up if that's a trip one or more
>>>>>> are willing/able to make.  Purely out of self interest, I propose that
>>>>>> meeting take place closer to the end of this month or the beginning of
>>>>>> next, so as to remain as personally involved as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We haven't settled on a Powershot model as of yet.  That search was
>>>>>> ongoing until news came of being loaned Canon DSLRs from the Books dept. at
>>>>>> IA. I assume our "beta testing" will benefit from the use of more than one
>>>>>> camera model.  Seems like we ought to seek out Powershots just to have on
>>>>>> hand.  Do you, Jude, or other Books people have any insights into the
>>>>>> merits of one model or another?  I've done my own exploring/conversating in
>>>>>> this DIYBookScanner thread<http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>but there does not seem to be a consensus on a single gold standard so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With all the developments as of late, we (the Noisebridge Digital
>>>>>> Archivists group) are definitely due for another general meeting.  That
>>>>>> will likely be the first order of business upon my return to SF, post-move.
>>>>>>  I'll send out another dispatch once the date's been set.  I extend to you,
>>>>>> Jude, the same invitation I have to Daniel, which is to Skype into that
>>>>>> meeting and/or simply subscribe to the DA mailing list<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>>>>>> you'd like to stay extra-current with our goings on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With great anticipation,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Danny N.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Danny,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to give you an update on where things stand. I ordered a PC
>>>>>>> (the same model we use on our scribes) and it should be here before the end
>>>>>>> of the week. I plan to put our software on there and then set a few
>>>>>>> switches in the software that are designed to allow our scribes to function
>>>>>>> in the event of a network outage. This will allow the software to work
>>>>>>> without a connection to archive.org's database. I don't believe
>>>>>>> that should take more than a day, so I think, if it's good for you, we can
>>>>>>> probably meet up some time later next week or early the following week and
>>>>>>> so I can give you the PC, the cameras, and some training in using our
>>>>>>> software. I'm also excited to check out the scanner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After that, I think you're definitely going to want to make some
>>>>>>> modifications to the software, and I'd be glad to help or advise with that
>>>>>>> in any way I can. We can discuss it in more detail, but to briefly
>>>>>>> summarize our process, our software is designed to produce a tarball of
>>>>>>> images along with an xml file containing metadata about cropping,
>>>>>>> deskewing, and rotation of the images (and some structural metadata about
>>>>>>> page numbers and page types optionally captured during image capture). This
>>>>>>> metadata is used on our servers, once a book is uploaded, to perform those
>>>>>>> actions on the raw images, producing the final formats that you see on
>>>>>>> archive.org. While you're of course welcome to upload anything you
>>>>>>> scan to archive.org, wait for it to process, and then download it,
>>>>>>> I assume you'd also like to be able to produce finished scans independent
>>>>>>> of our servers (and we would like to see that happen as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be able to meet at our Physical Archive in Richmond?
>>>>>>> That's where the cameras are, and also where my colleague Sean is based. He
>>>>>>> will have some ideas for mounting the cameras.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also very interested in seeing how the software works with the
>>>>>>> Canon Powershots you guys have. Do you have the model number of those, by
>>>>>>> the way? I would like to look at the specs online.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll email you again as soon as the PC arrives so we can set a date.
>>>>>>> Are you still out of town? If so, is there someone else I should email
>>>>>>> about this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to working together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jude
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Danny,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After you left on Friday, I heard back on an email I had sent to
>>>>>>> Daniel Reetz a week earlier, and he suggested we contact Noisebridge and
>>>>>>> look into working together since you had one of the kits. Synchronicity!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me see what Robert has to say about the time frame and I'll get
>>>>>>> back to you asap. His email is CCed here btw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>>>>> Process Manager
>>>>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/24/13 6:17 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jude,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I write you now from Noisebridge, just beneath the shelf currently
>>>>>>> home to the mostly-assembled Reetz kit scanner.  An update has gone out to
>>>>>>> the Digital Archivists mailing list (
>>>>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists) with a recap
>>>>>>> of our attendance today at IA and the accompanying discussions with
>>>>>>> yourself, Robert and Jason Scott.  Though I will almost certainly be out of
>>>>>>> town for the occasion, we'd like to put together a time when the kit can be
>>>>>>> brought to IA and outfitted with the necessary equipment and/or software to
>>>>>>> begin the "beta testing" we discussed this afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>>>>> personally participate in that meeting would be if it took place this
>>>>>>> coming Tuesday, which I realize may be too short of notice.  Either way,
>>>>>>> get back to me when you can with what works for you and we'll plan
>>>>>>> accordingly.  And of course, thank you, again, for your advice, generosity,
>>>>>>> and interest in our project and its progress.  We look forward to working
>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Very Best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  -Danny N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  PS:  Please forward this onto Robert as well (I don't have his
>>>>>>> email address).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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