[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

Jude Coelho judec at archive.org
Tue Jul 23 22:08:01 UTC 2013

Hey Danny,

I'm hoping to talk to Robert within the next hour or so (it is about 6AM 
in Shenzhen), but since he's not here, I think it would be most 
convenient to reschedule for when Robert is back in town. How about any 
time during the week of August 12-16 or 19-23?

Jude Coelho
Process Manager
Internet Archive

On 7/23/13 2:06 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
> Jude,
> Haven't heard back from you yet.  Are we on for tomorrow, or should we 
> reschedule for when Robert's back in town?
> -Danny
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> <newmy51 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     DA List et al.,
>     I propose we plan for the late morning/early afternoon of
>     Wednesday the 24th or anytime shortly thereafter. That way, John
>     will be back in town to participate.
>     Reply to confirm.
>     -Danny
>     On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Christopher Whipple
>     <crwbot at gmail.com <mailto:crwbot at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         I'm unavailable Wednesday evenings and this coming Monday
>         evening, the 15th. Other than that, my schedule is fairly
>         flexible given some fair warning.
>         -c
>         On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Shutt
>         <john.d.shutt at gmail.com <mailto:john.d.shutt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>             Hey all,
>             My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any date
>             after that would work for me.
>             John
>             On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com
>             <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> <newmy51 at gmail.com
>             <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                 Jude et al.,
>                 I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from
>                 whatever latest plague is going around, and ready to
>                 meet.  However, we have two core group members
>                 currently out of town, both of whom should be back by
>                 the end of the month, if not sooner (hopefully
>                 sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town for a spell
>                 sometime in late July/early August.  That said:
>                 1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return
>                 dates and earliest possible days you'd be available to
>                 travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>                 2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>                 3.  Chris Whipple: when would your car be available
>                 for such a trip?
>                 Awaiting your replies,
>                 -Danny
>                 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt
>                 <john.d.shutt at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:john.d.shutt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                     Hey everyone,
>                     That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would be
>                     up for travelling to Richmond to meet and help set
>                     things up, on whatever date works for everyone else.
>                     John
>                     On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM,
>                     newmy51 at gmail.com <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>
>                     <newmy51 at gmail.com <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                         Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>                         I'm still out of state, but finally at a
>                         computer fit for writing emails which my
>                         limited patience for dinky touchscreens will
>                         not permit.
>                         Those software tweaks sound like an excellent
>                         fit for our purposes, and perhaps kit scanners
>                         worldwide, as internet connectivity is not
>                         necessarily a guarantee in all scanning
>                         circumstances.  It's also nice to know that
>                         one or more components of the archive.org
>                         <http://archive.org> hardware/software suite
>                         are retoolable at all.  Can that be taken to
>                         mean that these things are entirely open
>                         source?  If so, is there publicly available
>                         documentation detailing this equipment and the
>                         software behind it?  One of the end goals of
>                         Noisebridge's book scanning endeavors is,
>                         loosely put, to develop hardware, software and
>                         operation standards to which all other
>                         hackerspaces and their scanners can adhere.
>                          From conversations so far with both Daniel
>                         and IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>                         I can't personally make a trip to Richmond
>                         until at least a few days after I get back
>                         (20th), as I'll be moving my life out of one
>                         San Francisco hobble and into another.  We do
>                         have several folks in our ranks who have
>                         expressed a willingness to travel, whether to
>                         the Archive, Ace Monster Toys, etc.  I'll
>                         leave it to them to speak up if that's a trip
>                         one or more are willing/able to make.  Purely
>                         out of self interest, I propose that meeting
>                         take place closer to the end of this month or
>                         the beginning of next, so as to remain as
>                         personally involved as possible.
>                         We haven't settled on a Powershot model as of
>                         yet.  That search was ongoing until news came
>                         of being loaned Canon DSLRs from the Books
>                         dept. at IA. I assume our "beta testing" will
>                         benefit from the use of more than one camera
>                         model.  Seems like we ought to seek out
>                         Powershots just to have on hand.  Do you,
>                         Jude, or other Books people have any insights
>                         into the merits of one model or another?  I've
>                         done my own exploring/conversating in this
>                         DIYBookScanner thread
>                         <http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>
>                         but there does not seem to be a consensus on a
>                         single gold standard so far.
>                         With all the developments as of late, we (the
>                         Noisebridge Digital Archivists group) are
>                         definitely due for another general meeting.
>                          That will likely be the first order of
>                         business upon my return to SF, post-move.
>                          I'll send out another dispatch once the
>                         date's been set.  I extend to you, Jude, the
>                         same invitation I have to Daniel, which is to
>                         Skype into that meeting and/or simply
>                         subscribe to the DA mailing list
>                         <https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>                         you'd like to stay extra-current with our
>                         goings on.
>                         With great anticipation,
>                         -Danny N.
>                         On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude Coelho
>                         <judec at archive.org <mailto:judec at archive.org>>
>                         wrote:
>                             Hi Danny,
>                             I wanted to give you an update on where
>                             things stand. I ordered a PC (the same
>                             model we use on our scribes) and it should
>                             be here before the end of the week. I plan
>                             to put our software on there and then set
>                             a few switches in the software that are
>                             designed to allow our scribes to function
>                             in the event of a network outage. This
>                             will allow the software to work without a
>                             connection to archive.org
>                             <http://archive.org>'s database. I don't
>                             believe that should take more than a day,
>                             so I think, if it's good for you, we can
>                             probably meet up some time later next week
>                             or early the following week and so I can
>                             give you the PC, the cameras, and some
>                             training in using our software. I'm also
>                             excited to check out the scanner.
>                             After that, I think you're definitely
>                             going to want to make some modifications
>                             to the software, and I'd be glad to help
>                             or advise with that in any way I can. We
>                             can discuss it in more detail, but to
>                             briefly summarize our process, our
>                             software is designed to produce a tarball
>                             of images along with an xml file
>                             containing metadata about cropping,
>                             deskewing, and rotation of the images (and
>                             some structural metadata about page
>                             numbers and page types optionally captured
>                             during image capture). This metadata is
>                             used on our servers, once a book is
>                             uploaded, to perform those actions on the
>                             raw images, producing the final formats
>                             that you see on archive.org
>                             <http://archive.org>. While you're of
>                             course welcome to upload anything you scan
>                             to archive.org <http://archive.org>, wait
>                             for it to process, and then download it, I
>                             assume you'd also like to be able to
>                             produce finished scans independent of our
>                             servers (and we would like to see that
>                             happen as well).
>                             Would you be able to meet at our Physical
>                             Archive in Richmond? That's where the
>                             cameras are, and also where my colleague
>                             Sean is based. He will have some ideas for
>                             mounting the cameras.
>                             I'm also very interested in seeing how the
>                             software works with the Canon Powershots
>                             you guys have. Do you have the model
>                             number of those, by the way? I would like
>                             to look at the specs online.
>                             I'll email you again as soon as the PC
>                             arrives so we can set a date. Are you
>                             still out of town? If so, is there someone
>                             else I should email about this?
>                             Thanks, and I look forward to working
>                             together.
>                             -Jude
>                             Jude Coelho
>                             Process Manager
>                             Internet Archive
>                             On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>                             Hi Danny,
>>                             After you left on Friday, I heard back on
>>                             an email I had sent to Daniel Reetz a
>>                             week earlier, and he suggested we contact
>>                             Noisebridge and look into working
>>                             together since you had one of the kits.
>>                             Synchronicity!
>>                             Let me see what Robert has to say about
>>                             the time frame and I'll get back to you
>>                             asap. His email is CCed here btw.
>>                             Jude Coelho
>>                             Process Manager
>>                             Internet Archive
>>                             On 5/24/13 6:17 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com
>>                             <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>                             Hi Jude,
>>>                             I write you now from Noisebridge, just
>>>                             beneath the shelf currently home to the
>>>                             mostly-assembled Reetz kit scanner.  An
>>>                             update has gone out to the Digital
>>>                             Archivists mailing list
>>>                             (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists)
>>>                             with a recap of our attendance today at
>>>                             IA and the accompanying discussions with
>>>                             yourself, Robert and Jason Scott.
>>>                              Though I will almost certainly be out
>>>                             of town for the occasion, we'd like to
>>>                             put together a time when the kit can be
>>>                             brought to IA and outfitted with the
>>>                             necessary equipment and/or software to
>>>                             begin the "beta testing" we discussed
>>>                             this afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>                             personally participate in that meeting
>>>                             would be if it took place this coming
>>>                             Tuesday, which I realize may be too
>>>                             short of notice.  Either way, get back
>>>                             to me when you can with what works for
>>>                             you and we'll plan accordingly.  And of
>>>                             course, thank you, again, for your
>>>                             advice, generosity, and interest in our
>>>                             project and its progress.  We look
>>>                             forward to working with you.
>>>                             Very Best.
>>>                             -Danny N.
>>>                             PS:  Please forward this onto Robert as
>>>                             well (I don't have his email address).
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