[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

Jude Coelho judec at archive.org
Tue Jul 23 23:28:19 UTC 2013

Hey Danny,

I will, but as of now, he is still not online. I'll let you know as soon 
as I speak to him.

Jude Coelho
Process Manager
Internet Archive

On 7/23/13 4:02 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
> Jude,
> There's a chance I'll be out of town during those dates.  Let me know 
> what Robert says if/when you can get a hold of him and let's go from 
> there.
> -Danny
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org 
> <mailto:judec at archive.org>> wrote:
>     Hey Danny,
>     I'm hoping to talk to Robert within the next hour or so (it is
>     about 6AM in Shenzhen), but since he's not here, I think it would
>     be most convenient to reschedule for when Robert is back in town.
>     How about any time during the week of August 12-16 or 19-23?
>     Jude Coelho
>     Process Manager
>     Internet Archive
>     On 7/23/13 2:06 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>>     Jude,
>>     Haven't heard back from you yet.  Are we on for tomorrow, or
>>     should we reschedule for when Robert's back in town?
>>     -Danny
>>     On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> <newmy51 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         DA List et al.,
>>         I propose we plan for the late morning/early afternoon of
>>         Wednesday the 24th or anytime shortly thereafter. That way,
>>         John will be back in town to participate.
>>         Reply to confirm.
>>         -Danny
>>         On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Christopher Whipple
>>         <crwbot at gmail.com <mailto:crwbot at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>             I'm unavailable Wednesday evenings and this coming Monday
>>             evening, the 15th. Other than that, my schedule is fairly
>>             flexible given some fair warning.
>>             -c
>>             On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Shutt
>>             <john.d.shutt at gmail.com <mailto:john.d.shutt at gmail.com>>
>>             wrote:
>>                 Hey all,
>>                 My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any
>>                 date after that would work for me.
>>                 John
>>                 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> <newmy51 at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>                     Jude et al.,
>>                     I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from
>>                     whatever latest plague is going around, and ready
>>                     to meet. However, we have two core group members
>>                     currently out of town, both of whom should be
>>                     back by the end of the month, if not sooner
>>                     (hopefully sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town
>>                     for a spell sometime in late July/early August. 
>>                     That said:
>>                     1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return
>>                     dates and earliest possible days you'd be
>>                     available to travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>>                     2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>>                     3. Chris Whipple: when would your car be
>>                     available for such a trip?
>>                     Awaiting your replies,
>>                     -Danny
>>                     On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt
>>                     <john.d.shutt at gmail.com
>>                     <mailto:john.d.shutt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>                         Hey everyone,
>>                         That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would
>>                         be up for travelling to Richmond to meet and
>>                         help set things up, on whatever date works
>>                         for everyone else.
>>                         John
>>                         On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM,
>>                         newmy51 at gmail.com <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>
>>                         <newmy51 at gmail.com
>>                         <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>                             Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>>                             I'm still out of state, but finally at a
>>                             computer fit for writing emails which my
>>                             limited patience for dinky touchscreens
>>                             will not permit.
>>                             Those software tweaks sound like an
>>                             excellent fit for our purposes, and
>>                             perhaps kit scanners worldwide, as
>>                             internet connectivity is not necessarily
>>                             a guarantee in all scanning
>>                             circumstances.  It's also nice to know
>>                             that one or more components of the
>>                             archive.org <http://archive.org>
>>                             hardware/software suite are retoolable at
>>                             all.  Can that be taken to mean that
>>                             these things are entirely open source?
>>                              If so, is there publicly available
>>                             documentation detailing this equipment
>>                             and the software behind it?  One of the
>>                             end goals of Noisebridge's book scanning
>>                             endeavors is, loosely put, to develop
>>                             hardware, software and operation
>>                             standards to which all other hackerspaces
>>                             and their scanners can adhere.  From
>>                             conversations so far with both Daniel and
>>                             IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>>                             I can't personally make a trip to
>>                             Richmond until at least a few days after
>>                             I get back (20th), as I'll be moving my
>>                             life out of one San Francisco hobble and
>>                             into another.  We do have several folks
>>                             in our ranks who have expressed a
>>                             willingness to travel, whether to the
>>                             Archive, Ace Monster Toys, etc.  I'll
>>                             leave it to them to speak up if that's a
>>                             trip one or more are willing/able to
>>                             make.  Purely out of self interest, I
>>                             propose that meeting take place closer to
>>                             the end of this month or the beginning of
>>                             next, so as to remain as personally
>>                             involved as possible.
>>                             We haven't settled on a Powershot model
>>                             as of yet.  That search was ongoing until
>>                             news came of being loaned Canon DSLRs
>>                             from the Books dept. at IA. I assume our
>>                             "beta testing" will benefit from the use
>>                             of more than one camera model.  Seems
>>                             like we ought to seek out Powershots just
>>                             to have on hand.  Do you, Jude, or other
>>                             Books people have any insights into the
>>                             merits of one model or another?  I've
>>                             done my own exploring/conversating in
>>                             this DIYBookScanner thread
>>                             <http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>
>>                             but there does not seem to be a consensus
>>                             on a single gold standard so far.
>>                             With all the developments as of late, we
>>                             (the Noisebridge Digital Archivists
>>                             group) are definitely due for another
>>                             general meeting.  That will likely be the
>>                             first order of business upon my return to
>>                             SF, post-move.  I'll send out another
>>                             dispatch once the date's been set.  I
>>                             extend to you, Jude, the same invitation
>>                             I have to Daniel, which is to Skype into
>>                             that meeting and/or simply subscribe to
>>                             the DA mailing list
>>                             <https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>>                             you'd like to stay extra-current with our
>>                             goings on.
>>                             With great anticipation,
>>                             -Danny N.
>>                             On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude
>>                             Coelho <judec at archive.org
>>                             <mailto:judec at archive.org>> wrote:
>>                                 Hi Danny,
>>                                 I wanted to give you an update on
>>                                 where things stand. I ordered a PC
>>                                 (the same model we use on our
>>                                 scribes) and it should be here before
>>                                 the end of the week. I plan to put
>>                                 our software on there and then set a
>>                                 few switches in the software that are
>>                                 designed to allow our scribes to
>>                                 function in the event of a network
>>                                 outage. This will allow the software
>>                                 to work without a connection to
>>                                 archive.org <http://archive.org>'s
>>                                 database. I don't believe that should
>>                                 take more than a day, so I think, if
>>                                 it's good for you, we can probably
>>                                 meet up some time later next week or
>>                                 early the following week and so I can
>>                                 give you the PC, the cameras, and
>>                                 some training in using our software.
>>                                 I'm also excited to check out the
>>                                 scanner.
>>                                 After that, I think you're definitely
>>                                 going to want to make some
>>                                 modifications to the software, and
>>                                 I'd be glad to help or advise with
>>                                 that in any way I can. We can discuss
>>                                 it in more detail, but to briefly
>>                                 summarize our process, our software
>>                                 is designed to produce a tarball of
>>                                 images along with an xml file
>>                                 containing metadata about cropping,
>>                                 deskewing, and rotation of the images
>>                                 (and some structural metadata about
>>                                 page numbers and page types
>>                                 optionally captured during image
>>                                 capture). This metadata is used on
>>                                 our servers, once a book is uploaded,
>>                                 to perform those actions on the raw
>>                                 images, producing the final formats
>>                                 that you see on archive.org
>>                                 <http://archive.org>. While you're of
>>                                 course welcome to upload anything you
>>                                 scan to archive.org
>>                                 <http://archive.org>, wait for it to
>>                                 process, and then download it, I
>>                                 assume you'd also like to be able to
>>                                 produce finished scans independent of
>>                                 our servers (and we would like to see
>>                                 that happen as well).
>>                                 Would you be able to meet at our
>>                                 Physical Archive in Richmond? That's
>>                                 where the cameras are, and also where
>>                                 my colleague Sean is based. He will
>>                                 have some ideas for mounting the cameras.
>>                                 I'm also very interested in seeing
>>                                 how the software works with the Canon
>>                                 Powershots you guys have. Do you have
>>                                 the model number of those, by the
>>                                 way? I would like to look at the
>>                                 specs online.
>>                                 I'll email you again as soon as the
>>                                 PC arrives so we can set a date. Are
>>                                 you still out of town? If so, is
>>                                 there someone else I should email
>>                                 about this?
>>                                 Thanks, and I look forward to working
>>                                 together.
>>                                 -Jude
>>                                 Jude Coelho
>>                                 Process Manager
>>                                 Internet Archive
>>                                 On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>>                                 Hi Danny,
>>>                                 After you left on Friday, I heard
>>>                                 back on an email I had sent to
>>>                                 Daniel Reetz a week earlier, and he
>>>                                 suggested we contact Noisebridge and
>>>                                 look into working together since you
>>>                                 had one of the kits. Synchronicity!
>>>                                 Let me see what Robert has to say
>>>                                 about the time frame and I'll get
>>>                                 back to you asap. His email is CCed
>>>                                 here btw.
>>>                                 Jude Coelho
>>>                                 Process Manager
>>>                                 Internet Archive
>>>                                 On 5/24/13 6:17 PM,
>>>                                 newmy51 at gmail.com
>>>                                 <mailto:newmy51 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>                                 Hi Jude,
>>>>                                 I write you now from Noisebridge,
>>>>                                 just beneath the shelf currently
>>>>                                 home to the mostly-assembled Reetz
>>>>                                 kit scanner.  An update has gone
>>>>                                 out to the Digital Archivists
>>>>                                 mailing list
>>>>                                 (https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists)
>>>>                                 with a recap of our attendance
>>>>                                 today at IA and the accompanying
>>>>                                 discussions with yourself, Robert
>>>>                                 and Jason Scott.  Though I will
>>>>                                 almost certainly be out of town for
>>>>                                 the occasion, we'd like to put
>>>>                                 together a time when the kit can be
>>>>                                 brought to IA and outfitted with
>>>>                                 the necessary equipment and/or
>>>>                                 software to begin the "beta
>>>>                                 testing" we discussed this
>>>>                                 afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>>                                 personally participate in that
>>>>                                 meeting would be if it took place
>>>>                                 this coming Tuesday, which I
>>>>                                 realize may be too short of notice.
>>>>                                  Either way, get back to me when
>>>>                                 you can with what works for you and
>>>>                                 we'll plan accordingly.  And of
>>>>                                 course, thank you, again, for your
>>>>                                 advice, generosity, and interest in
>>>>                                 our project and its progress.  We
>>>>                                 look forward to working with you.
>>>>                                 Very Best.
>>>>                                 -Danny N.
>>>>                                 PS:  Please forward this onto
>>>>                                 Robert as well (I don't have his
>>>>                                 email address).
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