[Digitalarchivists] Noisebridge DIY Book Scanner

John Shutt john.d.shutt at gmail.com
Fri Jul 12 00:38:45 UTC 2013


Hey all,

My return flight is the night of July 23rd, so any date after that would
work for me.

John


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:01 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Jude et al.,
>
> I'm back in town, moved, mostly recovered from whatever latest plague is
> going around, and ready to meet.  However, we have two core group members
> currently out of town, both of whom should be back by the end of the month,
> if not sooner (hopefully sooner).  I, too, may be leaving town for a spell
> sometime in late July/early August.  That said:
>
> 1.  John and Felipe: when are your precise return dates and earliest
> possible days you'd be available to travel to IA and/or Richmond?
>
> 2.  Jude: what days/times work for you?
>
> 3.  Chris Whipple: when would your car be available for such a trip?
>
> Awaiting your replies,
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Shutt <john.d.shutt at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> That's great news about the PC, Jude! I would be up for travelling to
>> Richmond to meet and help set things up, on whatever date works for
>> everyone else.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:20 AM, newmy51 at gmail.com <newmy51 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Jude, Daniel & Noisebridge DA-List,
>>>
>>> I'm still out of state, but finally at a computer fit for writing emails
>>> which my limited patience for dinky touchscreens will not permit.
>>>
>>> Those software tweaks sound like an excellent fit for our purposes, and
>>> perhaps kit scanners worldwide, as internet connectivity is not necessarily
>>> a guarantee in all scanning circumstances.  It's also nice to know that one
>>> or more components of the archive.org hardware/software suite are
>>> retoolable at all.  Can that be taken to mean that these things are
>>> entirely open source?  If so, is there publicly available documentation
>>> detailing this equipment and the software behind it?  One of the end goals
>>> of Noisebridge's book scanning endeavors is, loosely put, to develop
>>> hardware, software and operation standards to which all other hackerspaces
>>> and their scanners can adhere.  From conversations so far with both Daniel
>>> and IA people, that appears to be a shared goal.
>>>
>>> I can't personally make a trip to Richmond until at least a few days
>>> after I get back (20th), as I'll be moving my life out of one San Francisco
>>> hobble and into another.  We do have several folks in our ranks who have
>>> expressed a willingness to travel, whether to the Archive, Ace Monster
>>> Toys, etc.  I'll leave it to them to speak up if that's a trip one or more
>>> are willing/able to make.  Purely out of self interest, I propose that
>>> meeting take place closer to the end of this month or the beginning of
>>> next, so as to remain as personally involved as possible.
>>>
>>> We haven't settled on a Powershot model as of yet.  That search was
>>> ongoing until news came of being loaned Canon DSLRs from the Books dept. at
>>> IA. I assume our "beta testing" will benefit from the use of more than one
>>> camera model.  Seems like we ought to seek out Powershots just to have on
>>> hand.  Do you, Jude, or other Books people have any insights into the
>>> merits of one model or another?  I've done my own exploring/conversating in
>>> this DIYBookScanner thread<http://www.diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2569>but there does not seem to be a consensus on a single gold standard so far.
>>>
>>> With all the developments as of late, we (the Noisebridge Digital
>>> Archivists group) are definitely due for another general meeting.  That
>>> will likely be the first order of business upon my return to SF, post-move.
>>>  I'll send out another dispatch once the date's been set.  I extend to you,
>>> Jude, the same invitation I have to Daniel, which is to Skype into that
>>> meeting and/or simply subscribe to the DA mailing list<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists> if
>>> you'd like to stay extra-current with our goings on.
>>>
>>> With great anticipation,
>>>
>>> -Danny N.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jude Coelho <judec at archive.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Danny,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to give you an update on where things stand. I ordered a PC
>>>> (the same model we use on our scribes) and it should be here before the end
>>>> of the week. I plan to put our software on there and then set a few
>>>> switches in the software that are designed to allow our scribes to function
>>>> in the event of a network outage. This will allow the software to work
>>>> without a connection to archive.org's database. I don't believe that
>>>> should take more than a day, so I think, if it's good for you, we can
>>>> probably meet up some time later next week or early the following week and
>>>> so I can give you the PC, the cameras, and some training in using our
>>>> software. I'm also excited to check out the scanner.
>>>>
>>>> After that, I think you're definitely going to want to make some
>>>> modifications to the software, and I'd be glad to help or advise with that
>>>> in any way I can. We can discuss it in more detail, but to briefly
>>>> summarize our process, our software is designed to produce a tarball of
>>>> images along with an xml file containing metadata about cropping,
>>>> deskewing, and rotation of the images (and some structural metadata about
>>>> page numbers and page types optionally captured during image capture). This
>>>> metadata is used on our servers, once a book is uploaded, to perform those
>>>> actions on the raw images, producing the final formats that you see on
>>>> archive.org. While you're of course welcome to upload anything you
>>>> scan to archive.org, wait for it to process, and then download it, I
>>>> assume you'd also like to be able to produce finished scans independent of
>>>> our servers (and we would like to see that happen as well).
>>>>
>>>> Would you be able to meet at our Physical Archive in Richmond? That's
>>>> where the cameras are, and also where my colleague Sean is based. He will
>>>> have some ideas for mounting the cameras.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also very interested in seeing how the software works with the
>>>> Canon Powershots you guys have. Do you have the model number of those, by
>>>> the way? I would like to look at the specs online.
>>>>
>>>> I'll email you again as soon as the PC arrives so we can set a date.
>>>> Are you still out of town? If so, is there someone else I should email
>>>> about this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to working together.
>>>>
>>>> -Jude
>>>>
>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>> Process Manager
>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>
>>>> On 5/28/13 10:55 AM, Jude Coelho wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Danny,
>>>>
>>>> After you left on Friday, I heard back on an email I had sent to Daniel
>>>> Reetz a week earlier, and he suggested we contact Noisebridge and look into
>>>> working together since you had one of the kits. Synchronicity!
>>>>
>>>> Let me see what Robert has to say about the time frame and I'll get
>>>> back to you asap. His email is CCed here btw.
>>>>
>>>> Jude Coelho
>>>> Process Manager
>>>> Internet Archive
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/13 6:17 PM, newmy51 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jude,
>>>>
>>>>  I write you now from Noisebridge, just beneath the shelf currently
>>>> home to the mostly-assembled Reetz kit scanner.  An update has gone out to
>>>> the Digital Archivists mailing list (
>>>> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Digital_Archivists) with a recap of
>>>> our attendance today at IA and the accompanying discussions with yourself,
>>>> Robert and Jason Scott.  Though I will almost certainly be out of town for
>>>> the occasion, we'd like to put together a time when the kit can be brought
>>>> to IA and outfitted with the necessary equipment and/or software to begin
>>>> the "beta testing" we discussed this afternoon.  The only way I could
>>>> personally participate in that meeting would be if it took place this
>>>> coming Tuesday, which I realize may be too short of notice.  Either way,
>>>> get back to me when you can with what works for you and we'll plan
>>>> accordingly.  And of course, thank you, again, for your advice, generosity,
>>>> and interest in our project and its progress.  We look forward to working
>>>> with you.
>>>>
>>>>  Very Best.
>>>>
>>>>  -Danny N.
>>>>
>>>>  PS:  Please forward this onto Robert as well (I don't have his email
>>>> address).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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