[Noisebridge-discuss] space report: 83C Wiese

[Jonas S Karlsson]

Looks
Great
To
Me

! Darn I had to move to Sydney ;-)..

/Jonas

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:

> Inspired by Tuesday's meeting, Shannon and I scheduled a viewing for a
> newly listed space today.  It was very positive, and we're scheduled for
> a re-visit at 1:00 tomorrow, Friday 9/25.
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/off/853914124.html
> (note that the last photo on this post is of a different unit.)
>
> http://web.hexapodia.org/~adi/pix/200809-83c-weise/<http://web.hexapodia.org/%7Eadi/pix/200809-83c-weise/>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/60801485@N00/sets/72157607497772735/
>
>
> The space is a ground-floor loft space that's literally 200 feet from
> 16th/Mission BART.  The front door opens on Weise St, the very first
> tiny alley branching north off of 16th St west of Mission St.  The
> building is 4 commercial lofts, two ground level + two above.
>
> The space consists of two levels.  The ground floor is about 30'x30'
> wall-to-wall, but the bathroom and a built-out room and a utility locker
> (not part of the space, PG&E access from the street) take up a
> significant chunk.  The floor is tile over concrete, and there's major
> tile damage that the landlord says will be fixed "this weekend".  The
> loft is about 30'x12' and carpeted.
>
> The landlord seems incredibly cool.  "What do they do upstairs?"  "As
> long as the rent gets paid I don't ask questions."  "We'd like to put in
> card access."  "It's your space, do what you want."  "We don't have
> papers yet."  "It's fine for individuals to sign the lease... it is no
> problem to transfer to the corporation once it exists."
>
> There are three spaces:
>  - the big downstairs room, 30'x20' (plus bathroom and kitchen)
>  - a smaller downstairs "fishbowl" room, 10'x12' approx + closet
>  - the upstairs loft, 30'x15', shoji sliding screens + closets
>
> The upside:
>  - electric service looks solid, I counted 8 20A breakers + 1 30A
>  - kitchenette with electric stove, dorm fridge (stocked with Guiness!)
>  - ventilation to roof from stove (easily extended to a fume hood or
>   machine room)
>  - lots of leftover startup wiring, we probably want to tear it all out
>   and start over (eventually)
>  - lots of room for presentations
>  - 4 closets total (big, too); lots of nook and cranny storage space
>  - "bike cubbyhole" near door
>  - bathroom + shower (drain in middle of floor, ghetto but workable)
>  - private entrance, we can do our own access control
>  - incredibly convenient to BART and food and fun
>
> The downside:
>  - small, only 1ksf or so -- I'd be much happier with 1500.
>  - not very much isolation; you'd have a hard time having a workshop
>   upstairs while a presentation was happening downstairs.
>  - front door opens on Wiese St, which is a crackhead urinal.
>  - space opens directly out front door; crackhead theater in the street
>   sounds very nearby.
>  - space apparently has flooding problems (flooded in big rain in 200x)
>
> The landlord would like to move fast; if we give her a check for the
> deposit before the beginning of next week she'll knock $100 off the
> rent.
>
> -andy
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