[Noisebridge-discuss] radiations sensors- radioactive parts

[Rich Humphrey]

Ok, I went through the whole permit and homeland security sections of the NYPD website and found nothing. A search for 'geiger counter' just shows that people were using them in central park for birdwatching, which is strange... Probably without permits!

  I am now convinced that the law was killed off. Good riddance.

  LET'S PLAY WITH RADIATION!!!!

=Rich

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Richard Mortimer Humphrey
General Specialist

--- On Wed, 4/29/09, rich_humphrey at yahoo.com <rich_humphrey at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: rich_humphrey at yahoo.com <rich_humphrey at yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [Noisebridge-discuss] radiations sensors- radioactive parts
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 12:11 PM
> 
> Hey-
>   Yeah, I'm not sure where this ended up. Last I heard it
> looked like it would pass because the people for it were
> saying these were dangerous terrorist tools. You can always
> scare the public with any mention of *GASP* RADIATION! (ya
> know... LIGHT) I don't know if it passed watered down or got
> dropped. Trying to find out.
> 
>   It's especially scary because normally this sort of
> thing would be handled by Hazmat or the fire department, who
> already know normally handle this stuff and know the suject
> and the equipment. To put it under the police practically
> proves it's to control information. Also, they were
> insisting on jail time instead of fines. These two points
> are both abnormal.
> 
>   It seems to have been backlash after the city lied
> about air quality after 9/11 and got caught. The bill
> included 'radiation sensors and air quality monitoring
> equipment'. 
> 
>   It's in the public's best interest to have as many
> radiation sensors around as possible. If they were built in
> to cell phones, not only could people use them for their own
> safety, the government could map out radiation levels
> automatically! 
> 
>   I can't find the result of that proposal, hopefully
> they didn't wait until the interest waned and then pass it
> quietly. Now I'm really curious.
> 
> =Rich 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Richard Mortimer Humphrey
> General Specialist
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Lee Sonko <lee at lee.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Noisebridge-discuss] radiations sensors-
> radioactive parts
> > To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:19 PM
> > 
> > >  Note that this is important science to
> > safeguard, New York City has
> > outlawed Geiger Counters without a permit on the 
> > >grounds that there is no reason for the general
> public
> > to have them and
> > they could cause a panic. Never mind that they 
> > >were invented 105 years ago! (This is a very
> scary
> > attempt to limit
> > information by controlling one's ability to analyze 
> > >one's own environment!)
> > 
> > Yipe!
> > My google homework says that there was an effort to
> have a
> > permit system for
> > geiger counters but that the bill didn't 
> > pass. My info could be incomplete.
> > 
> > http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-01-08/news/nypd-seeks-an-air-monitor-crackd
> > own-for-new-yorkers/
> > http://webdocs.nyccouncil.info/textfiles/Int%200650-2007.htm?CFID=1125959&CF
> > TOKEN=38120662
> > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/a-license-to-check-for-wmds/
> > 
> > 
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