[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge shirts

[Michael Shiloh]

My problem with American Apparel is their use of sex to sell products

Mitch Altman wrote:
>   Suggestions?
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> CC: jacob at appelbaum.net; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> From: markc at binaryfaith.com
> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge shirts
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:51:29 -0800
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> My problem with American Apparel is that they don't make crap in my 
> size.. They fit everything to one size smaller. (the CEO does like his 
> clothes fitting nice and snug on his barely legal models...)
> 
> Also, the CEO fired his CTO for not lying about their profits... 
> 
> I'd rather support a more ethical company personally..
> 
> Mark
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> On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
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>     >  Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:42:49 -0700
>     >  From: jacob at appelbaum.net <mailto:jacob at appelbaum.net>
>     >  To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>     <mailto:noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>     >  Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge shirts
>     > 
>     >  Alex Perez wrote:
>     >  > My apologies for replying to myself, but I felt I needed to
>     elaborate
>     >  > upon my prior comment. Yes, I realize there are plenty of
>     sweatshops in
>     >  > *this* country as well, but American Apparel really is deserving
>     of our
>     >  > business, if we have to choose from the aforementioned list.
>     Please see
>     >  > http://americanapparel.net/contact/ourworkers.html if you have
>     further
>     >  > interest and/or questions.
>     >  > 
>     >  > From the above URL:
>     >  > 
>     >  > "The average sewer with experience at American Apparel is making
>     about
>     >  > $25,000/yr (i.e. $12/hr, well over twice the federal minimum)"
>     > 
>     >  Hi,
>     > 
>     >  As a counter point to the kindness of American Apparel:
>     > http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_26/b3939108_mz017.htm
>     > 
>     >  Best,
>     >  Jake
> 
>     Yeah, they probably all suck.  But some suck way more than others,
>     such as some of the black holes I found in China while searching for
>     good places to manufacture over there.  Some good ones do exist, but
>     other than going there to check them out, I don't know how to find
>     out who they are.
>      
>     Mitch.
>      
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