[Noisebridge-discuss] Spaces and tradeoffs (was Re: viewing report: 50 Juniper)

[Shannon Lee]

I think '420' is definitely the correct street number to use, given the
choice and our propensity for referring to our spaces by the street number.

--S

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 04:46:17PM -0700, William Mallard wrote:
> > Crutcher Dunnavant wrote:
> > >I am not as much of a fan of Clementina. I'd prefer something not out
> > >in the desert of soma.
> >
> > I don't imagine there are many warehouses zoned for light industrial
> > use that are *not* located in deserted parts of town.
>
> Oh, they exist.  They're mostly occupied by existing residential (either
> legit live-work or under-the-table) users.  There are 5 I can think of
> within 3 blocks of 16th/mission.  We missed out on one on Rondel that
> came open in May -- just before we started our space search in earnest.
>
> > And if you add the constraint that the new location should be easily
> > accessible by public transit, then i think we're left with soma.
>
> We were already constrained to the 5 core SF BART stations, basically
> (Mont-Powell-Civic-16th-24th).  There's plenty of smallish warehouse
> space in various parts of the Mission.  It's highly desirable space for
> a certain population -- burners and suchlike -- and that population is
> less economically sensitive than businesses.
>
> I'd love to find a nice 5ksf warehouse in the mission for $0.75 with ADA
> bathrooms and a shower and an elevator and sprinklers and permitted
> electrical and an onsite taqueria and Blue Bottle barista.
>
> I am pretty sure we'll be waiting for the *next* recession if we hold
> out for all of that.  We're going to have to decide what trade-offs
> we're willing to make.
>
> In my opinion, 410 Clementina satisfies nearly all of our requirements
> except being in the mission.  Is that close enough?  I think so, but I
> respect the voices that are expressing concern.  I just ask that people
> voice their concerns with respect for reality and the give-and-take that
> MUST be a part of our decisionmaking process.
>
> -andy (personally, I'm holding out for a gold-plated pony.)
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