[Noisebridge-discuss] DL380s

[Dr. Jesus]

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Jacob Appelbaum<jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> Jason Spence wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Christie Dudley<longobord at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Wow, this sounds like an argument I've had before...  Now, I can understand
>>> a concern for people wandering off with our equipment.  I can also see a
>>> concern for things hosted in Jesus' space becoming inaccessible if he gets
>>> all upset and wants to take his toys and go.
>>
>> John is listed as the rightful owner of the machines and get at them
>> too, once I finish something there and give him the necessary bits to
>> get in.
>
> If John owns the servers, how are they donations to Noisebridge?

They're donations in the same way all the other gear I brought in are
donations.  They're available for use by anyone, including me, but I
don't think anyone is going to complain too much if I take the
anti-zombie arsenal back.

Ultimately, the thing that determines ownership is the ability to get
a judge to order the sheriff to get the gear and give it to the
petitioner.  The sort of transfer that John made with the DL380s is
what a lawyer would call a gift under property law.  Based on prior
experience, I believe that without some evidence to demonstrate that
the gift was given and accepted, the accepting party can't exercise
that power to claim rightful ownership of gifted property if the
property in question is taken back.  I don't know whether that
evidence exists in the case of the DL380s.