[Noisebridge-discuss] mailing lists vs IRC & discussions thereon

Jacob Appelbaum jacob at appelbaum.net
Mon Jun 1 23:47:20 UTC 2009


Jason Dusek wrote:
> 2009/06/01 Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>:
>> 2009/06/01 Jason Dusek wrote:
>>> 2009/06/01 Al Billings<albill at openbuddha.com>:
>>>> 2009/06/01 Jason Dusek wrote:
>>>>>   Is IRC logged?
>>>> Of course not. We're talking about a group of people that
>>>> can't even have a webcam in the space for fear of
>>>> compromising anonymity.
>>> The mailing list is browseable though, right?
>> Yep...
> 
>   So this suggests the mailing list really is a better forum for
>   working through decisions in a way that you can revisit later.
> 

Possible. It sure is a time consuming nightmare though.

>> ...and we've had long discussions about how to have people's
>> names removed from the archives so no one could match an
>> individual person to posts if the person requests to be
>> removed.
> 
>   LOLz. There are like hundreds of people with all the mail (and
>   chats) available to them. There is at least one CIA/FBI/TSA
>   agent going through this stuff and tagging it with our real
>   names and serial numbers.
> 

I agree partially (sarcasm aside). Anyone thinking otherwise is
delusional. You can't redact the past.

This is a nice time to link this:
https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/MemoryHole

I, for one, will not redact without a legal demand that's valid unless
there's a damn good reason. And there probably isn't.

Best,
Jake



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