[Noisebridge-discuss] noise at noisebridge

[jim]

   i've felt the need for coordination on a variety 
of points. in this case, the tho't recurs that it 
would be nice to have an agreed-upon hierarchy of 
"do-isms": 


top-o-list 
...
focused get-togethers (e.g. milk and cookies, python, mandarin...) 
...
soldering, grinding, sawing, darkroom...
...
infrastructure (electrical, painting, venting...) 
...
...
unfocused nattering and partying 
...
sleeping 
...
bottom-o-list 


   in the spirit of treating each other excellently, 
there are the ideas of kindness, acceptance, and 
bringing others into one's fold (me/us) along with 
ideas of consideration and courtesy (them). (any 
one of us could be either us or them.) 




On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 01:35 -0800, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> On 2009 Mar 01, at 140103, Mitch Altman wrote:
> > On the other hand, one of the reasons I love being at Noisebridge is  
> > to help others with their projects, or to inspire others to explore  
> > what they may want to work on or play with.  I realize that's not  
> > everyone's desire or role.  And we all have different desires for  
> > what we want out of Noisebridge.  I hope we can respect all of each  
> > others' desires and goals and roles.
> 
> I've been holding back on replying to this thread, but I think I'll  
> feel a little happier if I just threw in my two cents here. More or  
> less want to build on what Mitch just said.
> 
> Noisebridge is what you want it to be. In my mind Noisebridge is a  
> space where I can come to socialize with other like minded people  
> while also working on some of my own projects. If I feel social and  
> others in the space feel social, socializing happens. If I feel social  
> and no one else in the space feels especially social (they're doing  
> their own thing), I end up going somewhere else. If I feel like  
> working on things and other people in the space feel like socializing  
> with me, I either ask them know that I'm not in a socializing mood (as  
> in make Noisebridge be what I want it to be during that time for  
> myself) or end up going somewhere else (it wasn't worth my time and  
> the effort to make Noisebridge be what I wanted it to be at that time).
> 
> This is a shared space, this isn't my house. I've kicked people out of  
> my house because I've found them annoying. I've left gatherings  
> because I found some people annoying. Since Noisebridge isn't my house  
> I don't force others to act as I think they should. I can ask them  
> (and have in the past) or I've opted to leave because as it turns out  
> there are other places I can go and do work and socialize.
> 
> A story to use as an example: A housemate of a friend of mine spent  
> two days complaining to the rest of the house about how a neighbor's  
> dog was keeping her up at night (her room was right next to their  
> yard). The next day she ended up calling the police and it turned into  
> a rather big deal. She didn't bother with actually going up and  
> talking with the neighbors and letting them know the dog barking was  
> an issue. As it turned out the neighbors would have been extremely  
> reasonable if she simply would have just gone by as a human being and  
> explained to them that the dog being left out was a noise issue for  
> her (this communicated through one of the housemates), but since the  
> police was involved it ended up being a rather big deal.
> 
> What I'm observing right now is some folks wanting to create  
> boundaries so that certain situations don't arise in the future. What  
> I don't see is an understanding between folks on "guidelines" with how  
> to approach such situations so one doesn't feel intimidated. If this  
> continues being a problem (i.e. someone invites a whole bar over to  
> Noisebridge even after several people asked whoever was behind this to  
> stop) then I don't think it unreasonable to ask for assistance from  
> the group as a whole.
> 
> As much as I'd like to say "Noisebridge is a space defined for only  
> this list of things..." so I don't have to deal with myself being  
> annoyed at folks using the space as temp housing, I remind myself this  
> this is a shared space and not my home. If I can't reasonably bring  
> myself to deal with this personal issue on my own, then I have no  
> place asking the whole group to deal with it for me.
> 
> --
> Rubin Abdi
> Rubin at Starset.net
> 
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