[Noisebridge-discuss] Wednesday: sensory substitution hangout

[Adam Skory]

Looks like if Rachel, Mikolaj, and Eric at the very least can make it
tonight then it's happening tonight, regardless of what the result of
the scheduling poll was. (So what was it?)

So I will definitely be staying after the MT meet-up as well and
expecting stimulating discussions.

-skory

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Eric Boyd <mrericboyd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'll also be coming by NoiseBridge for this meeting, after dorkbot (so
> hopefully around 10ish?).  I'm super keen not just on sensory substitution
> but also on new interfaces for interacting with computers.
>
> Have you guys seen all of these?
>
> http://singularityhub.com/2009/03/04/the-next-generation-in-human-computer-interfaces-awesome-videos/
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> Rachel McConnell wrote:
>>
>> OK I ditched my regular Wednesday thing for tomorrow, there are just too
>> many interesting things happening at NB.  So I will bring my motors (not
>> as good a form factor as yours But Anyway) and some other assorted Bits.
>>  I had the idea of a pair of somethings, each tuned to the other, so you
>> could (for example) find a friend in a crowd.  Or set it to a particular
>> location, instead of north... really there are so many possibilities!
>>
>> R
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:34 -0700, "Mikolaj Habryn" <dichro at rcpt.to>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mikolaj Habryn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a small bag of http://www.solarbotics.com/products/vpm2/ - one
>>>>> of the open questions is just how large a motor you're going to need
>>>>> to be able to feel it through any given set of clothing. Empirical
>>>>> testing, ahoy.
>>>>
>>>> The vibration of a pager motor is felt quite clearly through layers of
>>>> pillow fluff.  On the head, through (say) a knit hat, no problem at all.
>>>
>>> That's true, but I guess I had in mind what levels of modulation you
>>> could distinguish. Let's say, for example, that you wanted to signal
>>> more than just direction. If, instead of just vibrating north, you're
>>> signalling a vector to another person (logical extrapolation of all
>>> these social location maps+GPS services, right?), you might want to
>>> also signal distance and how long it has been since they moved.
>>>
>>> One of those you can signal with intensity of vibration, but the other
>>> one you'd have to get more creative (not that it's entirely clear that
>>> you have a large range of intensities available; for a given size of
>>> motor on the other side of a given piece of clothing, you might only
>>> be able to feel it vibrate at >80% power, for example).
>>>
>>> More creative might mean signaling with multiple motors, or trying to
>>> pulse the motor in a detectable way, or something else similar, and
>>> some of these might work better with some motors than others. And,
>>> best of all, brains might do better at integrating some types of
>>> signal than others. Maybe it's easy to train a different perception of
>>> pulsed vs continuous then it is to train for a combination of two
>>> motors vs one. I think it's going to be just fascinating trying to
>>> find out :)
>>>
>>> m.
>>
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