[Noisebridge-discuss] Club Matte for Noisebridge

Ani Niow avniow at gmail.com
Sun Mar 29 22:34:17 UTC 2009


I'd be up for a $250+ order. I'll put up a drinks request next time I'm
around to judge the existing stock.

-Ani

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Maybe we should go for an order of $250?
>
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> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:11:00 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Matte for Noisebridge
> From: avniow at gmail.com
> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> CC: longobord at gmail.com; matt at peterson.org;
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
> Certainly open to it if transportation can be provided. Of note, Costco
> also does delivery though they do charge $20 extra for orders under $250.
> -Ani
>
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>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> I'd say we're doing well with drinks.  :)
>
>
> You feel like getting more?
>
>
> Mitch.
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:54:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Matte for Noisebridge
> From: avniow at gmail.com
> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
> CC: longobord at gmail.com; matt at peterson.org;
> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
>
> We spent about $175 total on drinks last time so that's a 3x profit margin.
> Definitely paid for itself this time.
> Which reminds me we're running out again. That went rather quickly.
>
>
>
> -Ani
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, we are doing OK now (or OK enough?) with the amount
> of money we're taking in.  I've been collecting money from
> the beverage-payment-can every week I'm in town.  I don't know how much Ani
> and Christie spent on their last (very large) drink run, but the amount I've
> taken in since their drink run is $540.17.  How does that compare with
> what's been spent?
>
>
> According to people I've spoken to at various CCC spaces, selling Club Mate
> is a significant amount of their total income.  It is that popular!
>
>
> [True confession time:  I became a huge fan of Club Mate while at my first
> Chaos Congress in Berlin, even though I'm not into caffeine, and I am not at
> all into sodas.  When I first drank it, it tasted like a semi-bitter, bland,
> semi-sweet tea, but with some bubbles -- not awful, but not good either.
> But I was thirsty, and eventuallly drank the bottle while talking with the
> person who gave it to me.  By the end of the bottle, I thought it was sorta
> OK (sorta).  After the third bottle that someone gave me, I actually liked
> the taste -- it grew on me.  Or, as the motto on the posters state
> (translated from German, or so I'm told):  "You Get Used To It".  And it's
> true!  And, unlike Red Bull, and the like, I don't get totally wired and
> hyper, and I don't feel negative effects coming down from it -- the effects
> (the buzz) are much cleaner.]
>
>
> 2600 does not, as far as I know, have an exclusive contract with the
> company that makes Club Mate.  But I know the two people who set up the
> importing from the company.  The company makes beer also.  But from the
> company's point of view, the reason they exist is to make beer.  Club Mate
> is an annoying sideline that they only continue because it is popular (in a
> sub-culture way -- it is super popular with geeks, but it is also somewhat
> popular at hipster cafes and restaurants and anarchist-type hang outs).  The
> 2600 folks worked out a way to be the first large exporters of Club
> Mate, with some reluctance on the part of the company that makes it.  I'm
> sure that other people can now work something out with the same company now
> that 2600 has worked out the details with the company, and the company
> presumably now sees that it is only to their benefit (i.e. profit) to sell
> Club Mate to aliens hankering for it.  I don't think the price will be much
> different, however.  By far the biggest chunk of the price per bottle is
> shipping, and not the drink itself.  There's also a fee that you have to pay
> US customs (above and beyond the import duty) that is a few hundred dollars
> (each entity that imports has to pay this fee -- either a one-time smaller
> fee, or a larger annual fee, but both are a few hundred dollars -- I have to
> do this every year that I import TV-B-Gone remotes into the country from
> China).  So, importing a large quantity is way more cost effective, since
> the customs fee is the same regardless of quantity, and the shipping
> companies require a lot of "per shipment" costs.  {The most cost-effective
> quantity would be importing a Full Container (which is some large number of
> pallets, where each pallet is 800 bottles) to the port of Oakland, where we
> pick it up, and then distribute it -- but this is most probably beyond the
> scope of Noisebridge.}
>
>
> Mitch.
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:28:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Club Matte for Noisebridge
> From: longobord at gmail.com
> To: matt at peterson.org
> CC: maltman23 at hotmail.com; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
>
> To be clear, there is no soda that has ever been brought into noisebridge
> that only cost us $0.25.  I suspect that people were balking at the $2.00
> asking price, assuming $1.75 of that was profit for the space, which is
> unfortunate.  We simply can't get it much below regular retail, which I
> think confused the issue.  I haven't had time or energy to go through and
> count what's left and what the take has been.  Preliminary counts were not
> good.
>
> It sounds like the club mate at the rates Mitch is quoting are about the
> same as what we were getting for the red bull at costco.  I'm thinking it
> might not be a bad idea to check around more to perhaps find better pricing
> on what we bring in, if we decide to get more.  It's nice to have, but I
> don't think it's worth the hassle of trying to stay on top of people who
> continue to use the rest of us.
>
> (Although I'm hearing different stories on "official"-ness from different
> people - reports from 2600 that they're it differ from what people have
> understood from the bottler.  This makes me a little uneasy.)
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Matt Peterson <matt at peterson.org> wrote:
>
> Did the lack-of-payments for the existing soda/drink stock get sorted?
> It would seem like a bad idea to import a bunch of expensive soda if
> we're still having problems recouping the costs of $0.25 varients ;)
>
> For those who don't know, Club Mate is a sort of legionary in the hacker
> space scene of europe.  Something more popular then say Mtn Dew or Jolt
> Cola, but similar in vain geekness, see <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club-Mate>.
>
> (and yes, I'm a fan of Club Mate and reguarlly haul back two cases
> everytime I hit up .de)
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:55:59PM -0700, Mitch Altman wrote:
> >
> > I just got an email from folks at 2600.  They are the one official
> importer for Club Matte in the US, having set that up with the company that
> makes Club Matte in Germany.
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