[Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus and the "old ways".

[jim]

   nope. he says "possibly"; and anyway, he's expressing 
his opinion clearly and unambiguously. he's probably okay 
with anybody interpreting his way or the highway (i'm 
guessing), but no one has to cave in. 
   seems to me people newly joining in have to accept the 
status quo, even if they intend to make changes. 
   do we have consensus on consensus? 



On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 17:57 -0700, Jason Dusek wrote:
> I would be interested to know how many other people take
>    Jake's missive as something like "My way or the
>    highway.".
> 
> --
> Jason Dusek
> 
> 
> Den 01.10.2009 kl. 16:00 skrev Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>:
> 
> > Leif Ryge wrote:
> >> There is an inherent conservative bias in consensus decision- 
> >> making. If
> >> there is no consensus about how or if a thing needs to be changed,  
> >> that
> >> thing should generally stay the way it is. This is a feature not a  
> >> bug.
> >> ~leif
> >>
> >
> > That's pretty much spot on. It encourages people to join the group who
> > like how we're already doing things. If this principle isn't fitting  
> > for
> > you, it's possibly a core value mismatch. We're not for everyone.
> >
> > If you want to dump oil on beaches, you probably shouldn't join
> > Greenpeace. If you want to be an integrated part of Noisebridge,  
> > you'll
> > have to agree to our consensus process and the consensus decisions.  
> > It's
> > a big part of what has made this entire community possible.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jake
> >
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