[Noisebridge-discuss] Meeting notes for today

[jim]

nicely sliced, sai. (i.e. good meeting notes.) 


On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 22:18 -0700, Sai Emrys wrote:
> NB now has $1M liability insurance for 2169. Yay! (Only covers
> injuries, not stuff. Don't drop your laptop and try to sue.)
> 
> Various stuff was awesome. Yay.
> 
> We now have an actual lightswitch. OMG. It's next to the bookshelves.
> Applause for Jim.
> 
> We need money for shelves. Have $120. Need more. Donate plz.
> 
> 
> Matt et al did network stuff. 1W switch or somesuch, new router
> software, etc. Fat tubez R us. Connect to Noisebridge A if you can,
> it's faster. Tubez will be getting crazy fat soon. Talk to Matt if you
> want to know how.
> 
> Also, the network closet now has increased security (i.e. a ladder).
> 
> Rachael got 83c Comcast service discontinued; Speakeasy still needs to
> be done. VOIP phonage needs work, email ops at NB
> 
> 
> Yay Rubin et al for the Open House. We made $1450 gross; alcohol $250
> plus misc = ~$1250 net. Mm, booze.
> 
> Jeffrey promises mysterious absences of money in his term as
> Treasurer. Seconded multiply. Running unopposed... and duly appointed.
> Mitch won't just disappear, they'll work stuff out.
> 
> 2 new membership apps since last week, yay new people.
> 
> Dave Rawks & Meryl Pacana up for membership today.
> - Dave Rawks: nobody present seems to know him; no objections, just no
> real recognition. Deferred until later so we can get to know him
> better.
> - Meryl Pacana: now a member! Yay.
> 
> 
> David415 suggests we send useful stuff (TVs, computers, projection
> screens, FM transmitters, etc) to get recycled / reused / donated to
> people in other countries (e.g. Cuba), so it doesn't end up as toxic
> waste. NB could be a proxy to help donate 'em - MCRC donates the
> computers to NB, and NB in turn gives it to the target Cuban
> population via Frantisek
> ... various discussion about legalities, ethics, risks, prior
> experience with ACCRC & MCRC, donations, etc etc
> - decision: Jake will ask a lawyer if it's legal, we'll see more info
> from Frantisek & Leif, talk again next week
> - deadline: Oct 23, Frantisek leaves US
> - alternatives: private donations of computers?
> - google hits e.g. "donate computers to Cuba"
> - people to talk to: Frantisek, Leif, David, Shannon, Jake
> 
> 
> Issue: property rights at Noisebridge
> ... long discussion mostly reiterating nb-discuss.
> * expectations:
> - stuff in NB is hackable
> - one's own stuff won't be fucked with
> - we treat each other excellently
> * partial solutions:
> - label your stuff, e.g. a sign on a project saying 'This is Bob's,
> please don't touch'
> - try to make sure your stuff is on your named shelf if it's not
> intended for communal (ab)use
> - (controversial) unclaimed / untended stuff is to be expected to be
> put on hack shelf and thence up for use / destruction / robot-making /
> etc
> * questions & issues:
> - should NB take loans and not only no-strings donations? (currently: no)
> - should NB take stuff that's not intended for a specific project?
> - how should NB dispose of stuff that sits around unhacked?
> * notes:
> - NB has insurance that covers NB-owned property, but not member property
> - it kinda sucks to have equipment disappear that someone's using, mid
> project with, etc because someone takes it back
> * decision:
> - defer to hypothetical committee and further discussion
> 
> * to ask DrJ: The etiquette of discussing equipment repurposing
> 
> 
> Issue: broadcast logging on the network - should we log network
> activity, doors, etc?
> - example: noisedoor had an mdns command that showed laptop IDs
> currently in the space
> - people can hypothetically opt out of mdns. OTOH, most laptops
> broadcast it automatically
> - some things are bundled; e.g. opting into zeroconf networking gives
> both easy printers and mdns exposure
> - people have expectation of privacy. OTOH, privacy is vulnerable
> anyway if someone really wants to attack it. OTGH, we can raise the
> bar of abusing it
> - people have different levels of technical ability and ability /
> knowledge of how to protect themselves
> * decision: committee, discuss, etc
> 
> 
> Proposal: make shelf for plants near windows. No objections, yay plants
> 
> Proposals: (talk to Christian Einfelt)
> - have SF Linux Users Group here? (~6-13 people typically)
>  - counter: NB person spearheads it, treat it like any other class
>  - random: Python night started as an SFLUG thing, moved to NB successfully
> - bring linux computers to NB, let 'em be hacked, then give 'em to
> newb boyscouts / students / teachers to learn on
>  - counterproposal: make a group, do it as part of a project
> 
> Proposal: origami group (talk to Michael)
> 
> Announce: Deep Crack offered to NB. Fastest (non-classified) 3DES
> cracker. Non repurposable. US citizen use only. Claimed value $250k.
> Takes a lot of power, six racks worth of stuff, needs a truck. (Talk
> to Jake)
> 
> 
> ... and finally we're done, @ 10:10pm. Yay.
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