[Noisebridge-discuss] Deep Crack

[Ani Niow]

Wait, is this going to be a personal project of yours that just happens to
be at Noisebridge or is this for all of Noisebridge (minus US citizens) to
take part in? You also mentioned that we would not have ownership of it, so
what exactly does that mean? The EFF owns it but we're free to use it? This
is sounding awfully like a loan which we've discussed time and time again
that we do not accept.
Comparing this to Rachel's sewing machine I do not believe is fair, no one
is restricted from using a sewing machine, citizenship or not, it does not
use enough power to justify people paying separately for it outright nor
does it take up nearly as much space as Deep Crack would. This is reminding
me more of the DIYbio fridge that was brought in those many months ago which
violated the unofficial "what the fuck are you thinking, please use common
sense clause".

Considering the size, power and potential liability issues this brings up,
why was something like this not brought up for consensus? I checked the
notes and there was discussion about it last meeting and a fair amount of
people voiced these concerns on the mailing list. It doesn't seem to make
much sense to simply bring it over all these people's concerns *before* they
get sorted out.



-Ani



2009/10/7 Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>

> Christie Dudley wrote:
> >
> > But I have to ask why?  Can someone who supports this give a clear
> > explanation to those of us not quite as enthralled with it what we would
> > actually do with it besides bring it to the space, talk about it a lot,
> turn
> > it on and watch it hum as it pounds away at some DES key someone found
> > lingering about.
>
> I believe that I laid out a reasonable project. I think that having the
> machine in the space is a reasonable thing given the space constraints
> and the issues with moving a set of bulky machines. It's not really
> possible to tote it back and forth to the space when we want to use it.
> Especially considering the run time of say, eight days...
>
> Have we become a space where for each project, we must justify and sell
> every project to every member? That seems like it's not the case. It
> would be quite sad if it was so.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
>
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