[Noisebridge-discuss] Easy video recording of classes / workshops?

[Naomi Most]

How about this:

Anybody who wants to video their class can go sign up for free and record as
much blathering as they want, with no time limits, directly to the web on
either of the following sites:

* ustream.tv
* livestream.com

Any laptop with a webcam is sufficient, although for best sound
intelligibility I recommend deploying a USB condenser mic.

If there's some interest in aggregating the content under a Noisebridge
page, both of these sites provide RSS.

--Naomi



On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Sai Emrys <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 1. It's very time consuming to edit/process video and put it online
> > somewhere accessible. If you hadn't noticed, we have a major backlog on
> the
> > 5MoF videos, partly because of this, and partly because everyone involved
> is
> > super busy with other stuff.
>
> It's very time consuming to *edit/process*, I agree. I was expecting
> that this sort of recording would not be edited at all, or if edited,
> only very minorly and automatically (e.g. you type in the name of the
> event or the like and it inserts a slide at the front).
>
> Putting it online need not take up a human's time.
>
> > 2. The overhead of setting up a video camera and whatnot in a classroom
> > becomes annoying.
>
> It really is. Which is why I was thinking this might be able to use
> something smaller, like a laptop w/ integrated camera. There's always
> room for a laptop.
>
> > 3. There's also the problem of storage: can we safely ensure a video
> > camera/tripod/tapes/digital storage will be kept safe? We have been
> running
> > into a couple "uh oh!" moments lately, and having a camera used for a
> bunch
> > of different events (especially ones running at the same time) would
> agitate
> > everyone.
>
> No idea on this one, but don't we already store a whole lot of crazy
> equipment around the DJ booth?
>
> But I think for this to work we'd have to completely avoid anything
> that requires tapes and bulky cameras.
>
> > 4. Consent from everyone involved?
>
> Would be implicit for the organizer at least in them activating the
> system. For attendees, they'd have to either ask first, or just point
> the camera more focusedly to exclude objecting people from the shot.
>
> > Imagine if we tape recorded every one of Mitch/Miloh's
> > soldiering workshops? They do really cool stuff, but it eventually
> becomes
> > repetitive (like any intro class).
>
> Agreed. But this seems like a weak argument. So some of our classes
> are boring to watch if you look at all of 'em. So what?
>
> > 5. Given that not every class/workshop would want it, this now creates a
> > burden of expectation on the leader/teacher. What if students show up
> with
> > false expectations of a video camera?
>
> Make it something the leader is supposed to do (or not)? And that uses
> on-site equipment that's just gotten from its storage cubby, not that
> anyone should be Bringing Stuff In for.
>
> > For the most part, I think meeting notes are enough. If I teach a
> security
> > workshop, I'm more than happy to post notes after the fact.
>
> I think your notes for the security workshop were totally inadequate
> for someone to get the same value as they would have from attending.
> They said *what* you covered, they were not the content themselves.
>
> And I think it's totally unreasonable for anyone to expect them to be
> adequate, because that'd take too much work.
>
> Which is why I think that a very lightweight recording solution would be
> nice.
>
> I think you're thinking of this like you think of e.g. the Real Video
> Recordings™ of 5MoF. It's intended to be MUCH simpler than that, more
> like at the level of what I could do right now by going to youtube and
> live recording a video.
>
> Actually, hm... that's possibly a viable solution.
>
> 1. Have a laptop + webcam available. (Either integrated webcam or
> offboard. I could donate a webcam if that's necessary.)
> 2. The laptop is permanently logged into the NB Youtube account.
> 3. In order to record your talk/workshop/whatever all you have to do is:
> * get the laptop
> * plug it in and point it at you somewhere in your space
> * go to http://www.youtube.com/my_webcam
> * hit record and do your thing
> * stop it and fill in the metadata
> * put it back
>
> That'd be pretty easy.
>
> Only problem I see in doing that right now is
> a) I don't know if NB has a laptop that's usable for this, and
> b) I think NB's YT account isn't unlocked to allow >10min videos, or
> whether it'd be approved if it applied for it
>
> ... so we might need some equivalent solution (i.e. instant record &
> automatic asynchronous uploaindg) that isn't youtube-limited. I'm not
> familiar with one, but perhaps one of y'all is.
>
> Another workflow:
> * open up a movie recorder
> * record it
> * save it to a Magic Folder
> * save an identically named file copied from a template to the Magic
> Folder, which specifies metadata
> * every day or so a script uploads it wherever desired
>
> Still would be pretty lightweight.
>
> - Sai
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