[Noisebridge-discuss] I am really disappointed with certain members of noisebridge

[Praveen Sinha]

Thank you so much Leif for coming forward -- people like you make
noisebridge rock!

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:

> Ian,
>
> First and foremost, I offer you my sincere apology and my promise that I
> personally will not (mis)use your company's service again.
>
> I was the one who pointed out last night that people could run
> curl -d to=3 http://some-uservoice-url/votes
> to vote for something, and that without cookies, they could keep voting.
>
> I would characterize this as harmless ballot-stuffing, rather than a
> DDOS, but I understand that if it got out of hand it could certainly
> have the effect of a DOS. I am very glad to hear it didn't take the site
> down. Taking the site down was certainly nobody's intent; the intent was
> simply to get a lot of votes on a single item, to demonstrate why voting
> on things with a tool like this doesn't make any sense for a group like
> ours.
>
> I personally only sent a few hundred http requests, and in light of your
> company's stated interest in legal action (which I think is entirely
> unwarranted given that the whole thing was apparently a few thousand
> http requests from a single location) I will not help determine who else
> sent more. Obviously, like most things at noisebridge, this was in no
> way an action of the organization and was only the action of a few
> individuals.
>
> I regret the strife that this caused you, and hope you can accept my
> apology.
>
> ~leif
>
> Ian wrote:
> > last night, there was an attempted DDOS on the noisebridge forum from
> > 75.101.62.89 and 75.101.62.88. yes. those are both noisebridge IPs.
> > they submitted around 35,000 votes to the forum and could have taken
> > the entire uservoice site down.
> >
> > i have no problem with people voicing their concerns on the mailing
> > list, but to do something destructive and illegal using noisebridge
> > equipment against a company that one of its members works for simply
> > because you didnt agree with its usage is beyond pathetic. rubin, for
> > future reference, even though you may not mean anything destructive or
> > personal with your "abrasive" (as you put it in your personal apology
> > to me) comments on the list, other, weaker people on the list who are
> > followers will take them in a different way.
> >
> > i tried to not censor anyone on the feedback forum and accommodate
> > everyone and tried to play the role of strictly the forum admin. one
> > of our staff deleted the suggestion about trying to get root on our
> > site because, well, they simply viewed it as a threat against
> > uservoice. i assured them finding security flaws was legitimate and
> > will even benefit us. then they pointed to the suggestions about
> > disparaging uservoice and my comment facilitating that. then again i
> > reassured them i was only being the site administrator and that we
> > shouldnt censor people who use our product even if their suggestions
> > could hurt our business. the bottom line is i put my neck out to try
> > to provide noisebridge with something that i thought would be useful
> > and this is the thanks i get.
> >
> > aside from my current situation with the company, uservoice is talking
> > about taking legal action against noisebridge for the DDOS attack. i
> > have begged them to allow me to solve this without legal intervention.
> > i ask that the people who were responsible name themselves and
> > separate them from the rest of noisebridge. if you identify yourself,
> > explain and apologize for your actions, i think i can convince the
> > rest of uservoice to move past this.
> >
> > ian
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