[Noisebridge-discuss] Hacker Dojo / NB reciprocal membership WAS: Hacker Dojo up and running, and in the mainstream news

[Christie Dudley]

It's my understanding that the Hacker Dojo operational philosophy is
considerably different from the Noisebridge philosophy.  I think it'd
be a tremendous courtesy for the Dojo folks to waive the day-use fee
for Noisebridgers (or members of other hacker spaces around the
world), but I am not seeing what we could do to reciprocate, as we
open our doors to anyone who wants to come in.

I've heard some suggestion that the Dojo was intended to be a
for-profit operation, which would also get into some complicated
501(c)(3) legal mumbo-jumbo if we were to mix too much resource-wise
with them.  Then you get into the sticky business of "benefits of
membership" and concerns over people just getting a NB membership for
the benefit of the Dojo access, etc. etc.

Neat idea, but it's apples and oranges for one low, low price...

Christie
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM, deleTed <arbzed at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am interested in taking up the cause and pursuing some kind of joint
> or reciprocal membership benefits arrangement between NB and the
> Hacker Dojo.  I'm on friendly terms with some of the Dojo cats, and
> I've raised the issue with them a couple of times before.  They seem
> generally amenable to it.
>
> I'm motivated to do this because Hacker Dojo is a short ride from my
> work, Noisebridge is a short ride from my home.  I could see myself
> participating in both communities, but paying to support two
> hackspaces simultaneously would exceed my budget.  I imagine there are
> other commuters in a similar situation.
>
> Part of the HackerDojo's model is that they're planning on charging a
> day-use fee for non-members who want to hang out at the space
> (although they have yet start doing that).  It would be swell if we
> could get the day-use fee waived for Noisebridge members.
>
> I'm stuck on what I can bring to the bargaining table, though... What
> can NB can offer Dojo members, other than goodwill, given that pretty
> much all of NB's resources are open to the general public?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> dlt.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:17 PM, David Alexander Molnar
> <dmolnar at eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Jeffrey Malone wrote:
>>
>>> "We're aiming to make this a 24-hour place, and there's nothing like
>>> that," Lindsay said. "Other than Denny's, or something like that."
>>>
>>> I'm glad there's finally a place like this in the bay area!  No more
>>> hanging out at Denny's for those late night hacks!
>>
>> I wouldn't read much into a single quote from a news story.
>>
>> In any case, Noisebridge is regrettably too far for many people based in
>> the South Bay and peninsula. Here's hoping Hacker Dojo prospers. At least
>> some of the people involved are aware of Noisebridge. (To the point where
>> someone on their mailing list wanted to explore the possibilities of joint
>> membership options a while back...doesn't look like that person has showed
>> up here yet.)
>>
>> David Molnar
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